Do you know who you "truly" are?

Discussion in 'Existentialism' started by ginalee14, Mar 13, 2014.

  1. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    lol nope we didn't date but he ended up with a chick who has the same name as me.. ha!
     
  2. themnax

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    yes, i know who i have been for many lifetimes on end, and i know none of my previous ones were on this earth, and it is unlikely any of my future ones will be either.

    i don't know what you mean by "who". what i am is just what i am. it doesn't need to be anything else. who i am, is just the who that i am. no more, no less, and no other person nor thing. nor can i imagine why i would ever want to be any other.

    but this has nothing to do with species of physical life form, physical or emotional gender, any of those external things like that.
    the true self is completely non-physical, and is just joined to physical form for the duration of each life.

    who is not a big deep philosophical thing. what we are we choose. though with influences and inclinations from previous lives, and perhaps even future ones.

    i am themnax of lananara. who else do i need to be?
     
  3. ginalee14

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    Who .. ego, identity. One can spend time - or an entire lifetime - in a certain role but that doesn't mean that's their true identity. For example, as a human on Earth .. I have many roles (I'm somebody's mother, somebody's friend or enemy, somebody's source of profit, etc) but none of those things say who I truly am. Those things can be part of it .. but we are VAST beings. Shed all the attachments and the "humanness" ..

    I don't know who else you need to be. Who else do you need to be?
     
  4. OddApple

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    Haha it seems to me that we very often end up in ruts of being who we are not because of who we are. We make some compromise for a reason and it continues to sneak up on us until we find ourselves being all compromise for not very compelling reasons....pop goes the hippie
     
  5. Gongshaman

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    Ha ha, fortunately one oddapple don't spoil the whole bunch...
     
  6. themnax

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    awareness identity. i don't know any other logical meaning of "who".

    vast and small in this context, are equally meaningless.

    these external things, have what to do with identity?
     
  7. ginalee14

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    Meaningless to you, then.

    You're making it not possible to have a conversation, FYI.
     
  8. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    Dreams are Escapism from what was reality to awake to what will be the chance to achieve that which will be the challenge of the day one rises to
    :)
     
  9. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    Interesting.

    I died years ago (it's a spiritual thing). Then I woke to eternity. Destiny, destination .. reached. Now I R.I.P. wide awake in eternity.

    lmao

    Nobody understands it, lol
     
  10. thedope

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    I'm in the state of washington. There is no stranger any more than strange and if you know yourself who are you stranger to? You see vain is something I am familiar with having once been an adolescent testing the proportions of emerging virility. Behind grandiose self proclamations are the hopes of the essentially searching, the dreamer.

    I'm curious how you know what dreams need if you don't dream? I don't know what eureka understanding fell upon you but your pal certainly hadn't found himself suggesting life a dusty road, living being a journey without distance. Do you mean moments of knowing and understanding are rare or having an essentially new thought, learning something, is rare?
     
  11. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    Good morning, thedope. How are you today?
     
  12. thedope

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    Funny thank you
     
  13. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    I'm lazy and having a scrabble marathon. I woke up today dreaming of Thom Yorke.. ran around my apartment looking for him but he's nowhere to be found.

    Just kidding.
     
  14. thedope

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    You ran around looking for him in a dream or dreamed of him while listening to music or did you dream of music and couldn't find the record? Was waking up the lazy making part of you because having a marathon and running around and dreaming seems quite industrious to me?
     
  15. ginalee14

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    I'm lazy on account of spending all my energy running around looking for Thom. Every time I got close to finding him, he disappeared. He's so magical.
     
  16. thedope

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    But then you said just kidding. I think he might not be there at all.
     
  17. ginalee14

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    It's true, I woke up dreaming of Thom Yorke. Everything else was a lack of coffee talking.
     
  18. thedope

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    You are part coffee?
     
  19. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    haha yes
     
  20. themnax

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    i do not understand this 'conversation', it makes no sense.

    the only who, is we each create and explore in our own unique combination of ways. i just can make no other sense of this idea of everything centered on each of us seperately as individuals.

    i mean i live in only one body at a time certainly. but what we all experience doesn't come from and to each of us alone seperately.
    we make what we see individually, together statistically.
    all of us create the incentives that make the policies which create the conditions we then experience.

    so i don't really get what you mean by this "who" business.

    i mean we're each unique, sure, but what else does there need to be, this thing you call identity. its like you're making something else out of it that makes no sense to me.

    how does conversation have anything to do with identity?

    you're speaking of relationships between people, and that's fine, but that's still not identity, and i completely don't see how its supposed to be.
     

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