Do you know who you "truly" are?

I think to have any concrete notion of who I truly am would reduce the fluidity of who I may yet become.

 

Validation and confirmation is affirmation = positive, positivity.
Negation and denial = negative, negativity.

The negativity is your disagreeing with just about anything I've said (why, I don't know).

 

I am always on a road of self discovery and hope my road and drive always take me in a postive happy direction, where I touch people in a good way and never a bad way....This is all I hope....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCcaP5z4xbg"]Neil Diamond - I Am, I Said - YouTube

 

I'm kind of schizo...It's good to have someone to get on with yourselves...

 

I asked if people know who they truly are yet. That's my focus (more about others, less about myself). Knowing one's true identity is an aspect of "waking up" and being awake. I can talk to people who are "sleeping" (unknowing, forgetful) but the conversation would be unfruitful. My own specific identity is not the point of the thread. But even if I told people, directly and plainly, they would not believe it and they certainly would not understand it. It's truly incomprehensible. Again, *I* am not the point of this thread.

 

I don't believe in schizophrenia. Not as a disease of the brain, not as a genetic mutation and not as a disease of the mind or psyche.

I do believe in the destructive impact and detrimental effects of trauma and abuse & neglect of every form, unkind. And I also think that malnutrition plays a HUGE role in discontent of mind / body / spirit.

 

You have a genuine positivity that's uplifting. You're the sort of person whose absence would darken a place / whose presence lightens it up.

 

That makes me think of fully formed planets. I think people are a lot like planets .. it takes a while for us to form into our fully matured self. But some people think they're stars .. or maybe they are stars. I think Radiohead is an entire galaxy hahaha.

 

Try telling this to my psychiatrist...I may get back to you on this,but too much information wants to get out all at once and I can't formulate my thoughts.

 

Awwwwwhhhhhh...thank you. I sense your sincerity and genuineness, for sure, but hell, those are some pretty big shoes to fill you speak of....not sure I can fill those.....I have bad days, dark just like everyone.....I just hope they become fewer....

 

No not true is what I am saying and I say this by virtue of the fact that you have conducted an insufficient sampling of what people may find believable or comprehensible or not because you simply haven't made any claim except that you are exceptional. It is not a matter of our belief or ability to comprehend, it is a matter of you providing no information on the subject.

To this point you haven't been accurate but I am interested in what you say for time but ultimately whether or not I speak to you may wax and wane in importance.
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Not if you say it aloud.

Does conversation mean talking at people or trying to communicate with someone?

You objected initially to my understanding of who I truly am. I don't feel challenged, you challenged the quality of my thinking and I am building a case for it on the basis that we can share our thoughts and be meaningful to one another.

Less than ultimately truthful?

If you think others different than you then it is possible that seeing something in them you have not recognized that you are looking at your own measure.
You are hiding but you are not a master of it, I see you quite clearly because I know what it is to be.

Not to the exclusion of others. Your variety is an expression of a single condition of being human, an expression of the diverse nature in terms of attraction or interest.

Indeed.

If you think they are other than the here we all share, you are mistaken, you have no unique perspective on truth or what is so, we share in what is so.

Have you awoken from your dream of separation?

 

That's normal though. Thanks to telecommunications (tv / radio / internet) we live in a globalized world. We take in MASSIVE amounts of information in today's world compared to what people 100 years ago could take in. Information is the same as the body's digestive system: intake, process, output. That's a lot of work for *anybody* to do.

Remember this: psychiatry is a business.

 

Well if you conceive your notions as concrete instead of notions. A firm understanding of self is that it is in a constant state of becoming.

 

I stop at that point and cannot read any more. I have said, repeatedly, that EVERY person has a unique identity. Not just myself.. everyone. Your identity is your very own .. you share it with NOBODY else. My identity is my own. You are who you are and I am who I am. You are not me and I am not you. This applies to EVERY person. Literally every person has a unique identity. Me, I'm WIDE AWAKE. I know who I am. Yep, sure do. But, this isn't about ME. It's about people waking up and knowing who they truly are.

This thread was intended to be a conversation about that topic.

Now I will read the rest of what you wrote. But I just had to clear that up.

 

Good point. :cheers2:

 

Gina, I don't care if you get mad at me or think I'm mean or put me on ignore for this. I'm just gonna tell you how something comes across TO ME. When you are constantly talking about other people waking up and knowing who they are, just like you have... it does seem like you think you are exceptional. I think it is a bit arrogant to try to judge anyone else's path or to act like you have some total knowledge that makes you wide awake, yet fail to express what exactly you are talking about... honestly, in addition to what I already said, it starts to sound like a bunch of hogwash (don't think I've ever used that term before, lol)....

I mean, geez... I know what I know too and yes, people are separate in this space at least but we are all the part of the same whole. But it's really not important to me if anyone else believes what I believe... I'm just not sure what the point is to this thread? You want to know if people are awake and know who they are? And you keep saying you know who you are... but won't tell us what you mean.... what if that could be used as an example to somebody? To know what you are talking about....

 

I hope you have something to believe in.

 

You don't recognize what I am disagreeing about and you do not understand the difference between negation and negativity. I have polarity, I am a stimulus to your reaction and your reaction is stimulus to my reaction. The reason you don't know why you perceive this exchange negatively is because you are not taking responsibility for your own rate of absorption or reflection. It is your self denial that gives you the impression of "negativity", as again I cannot negate you. Negativity is a strictly subjective impression.

 

If you say so :mickey:

 

She won't tell us who she is though.