do you enjoy HPPD

It's all of that, and your serotonin system. Remember this is a feedback loop. changes to serotonin system -> changes in cognition/perception -> changes to serotonin system. Your thoughts affect your brain as much as your brain affects your thoughts. Thinking depressing thoughts will fuel depression, and not just in some fluffy way, but in a very real, chemical way. Mind over matter, every second in every neuron.

 

writers words are deep there. There is major research that shows about that. Nothing solid though. Real as hell for sure. Some people say that they can achieve a psychedelic state with meditation only. Or even lower their heart rate to a ridiculous level. We control our own chemistry too.

 

I suppose it's a matter of how you handle having HPPD. I'm pretty used to it. If I stare or keep my vision still for a few seconds the things in the corners of my eyesight will start to stretch or sway. If I stare long enough I can't even make out my field of vision.. more so when stoned lol.

 

Well, mild visual distortions aren't clinical HPPD...if anybody stairs at a wall long enough it will start to contort in your peripheral vision mildly...the brain has been known to fill things in.

clinical hppd implies that it is strong enough to affect your life in a strong [negative] way.

 

yea, i've always wondered if my vision has always been like this or if maybe I just never noticed it until after I started tripping. It does seem to be worse the days following a trip though, or a roll.

 

yea...that's pretty normal though. with lsd, my vision is always altered the next day or two.

 

I dont have much of an issue with the continuing HPPD i have, its just like a fuzzy layer of patterns over everything. I notice it more when im stressed, high or underslept. After a while it just becomes the norm, i get it quite a bit on white walls and paper which can make reading distracting. I took a look at my wall just before to notice it was gone, then i remembered i had a K-Pin.

I dont take many psychs these days, my idea about why it has gone on for so long is due to long term alcohol abuse.

 

its really amazing how the mind can create fears and horrible, horrible sensations IN-AND-OF-ITSELF! you can essentially get high without getting high... you can relive trauma. you can go through a LOT of unnecessary crap in your mind without a positive attitude.

 

:xmastree: YA! like my friend said, "its all in your head!"

 

Oh jeez my friend don't get me wrong, there's nothing mild about it at all besides my attitude toward it lol. I said I'm pretty used to it =p. Before I learned to accept, it would begin with a mild nauseating anxiety / panic and would happen to me almost any where, very debilitating in social / family or structured situations.. I'd have to run to the bathroom and try my hardest to calm myself down mentally. Sometimes it'd seem like the visuals would distort in proportion to the amount of fear I felt, if my heart was really racing I'd compare the general visuals to a +++. If I could say anything about the feelings associated with HPPD, I'd call it being sucked out of the universe when you're not looking to be. Very very weird, very trippy. And I don't know about you but I never had acid-like-visuals while sober until I actually started tripping. If I can recall "normal" and "before I began tripping", the things in my visual perimeter were always 100% static, without transparent and colored bubbles floating around every where, lol. And no not to confused with floaters or when you stare at a light real quick and look away. :\

 

i've never had stronger than ++ visuals from hppd...unless i smoke pot.

but jesus, a +++?

i've only heard of that happening to people who take lsd a few times a week for an extended period.

 

Haha good call, I was. But I noticed what really kicked it in was when I started trying RC's, particularly 2C-E. That drug took visual distortion to a whole new level for me, and residual effects have been kind of "burnt" into my eye sight. There was a few months where I always had CEVs whenever I shut my eyes, literally tons of multi-colored "blobs" would be floating and morphing around. But those went away. Lol

 

i got mild HPPD from 2ce too i believe. but from oral doses less than 20 mg. you were doing a bit more, so i'm not surprised that you had worse HPPD

 

not much of mine has anything to do with 2c-x i don't think...though the only one i've taken excessively [and i mean EXCESSIVELY] is 2c-c...

for a week or so after a ketamine binge i get moderate visual distortions.