Do you believe in UFO's? Flying Saucers? Aliens?

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Do You Believe Aliens from Other Planets, Exist?

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  1. Drager1

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    A highly detailed IPhone12 photo of something is supposed to exist aswell, coming from the same source those 3 leaked f18 vids were from. Il post the link if I come across it again.
     
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  3. Piobaire

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    I remember hearing Carl Sagan explain something to the effect of "There are <insert astronomically large number here> solar systems in the known universe. If <insert infinitesimally small fraction here> of those are capable of supporting living organisms, and only <insert an even more infinitesimally small fraction here> of those actually do so, that means that there are <insert astronomically large number here> planets in the known universe that harbor extraterrestrial life."
    Sounds reasonable enough to me; I'm neither an astrophysicist or mathematician.

    As for UFO's, the nearest planet which might even remotely harbor life, even bacterial, is Kepler-186f; 500 light-years away. The distance light travels in 500 years. 3 quadrillion (3,000 trillion) miles. That's the closest planet which even might be habitable. For a Homo sapiens arriving there today, having traveled there at the speed of light, their ancestors would've left Earth when witchcraft and plague were real concerns. I'm no physicist, but I think that I read somewhere that for physics to be true, they have to be universally applicable and immutable. While I'm sure that our understanding of physics is incomplete, I think that it's advanced enough to suggest that there are some barriers to intergalactic travel which are quite probably insurmountable.

    I think that it's also highly probable that it is the nature of technologically advanced civilizations to "flash in the pan"; in terms of astronomical time, they suddenly arise, consuming all of their natural resources, polluting their environment, and destabilizing their climate, and then just as suddenly collapse and disappear, long before they ever develop the technology advanced enough to generate even a detectable radio blip (Arecibo listened to silence for 57 years), much less achieving intergalactic travel.

    Besides, humans absolutely suck at keeping secrets. If I tell someone something in confidence at the market, my neighbor knows it before I get home.

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  4. Drager1

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    That isn't the one,, but it is mentioned here
    Leaked UFO Pentagon photo: Mysterious object that US intelligence admits could be 'alien'
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    The 2020 classified report included an "extremely clear" UFO photograph, which was not released in the leak.

    The triangular craft, which had lights on its corners, emerged from the ocean and soared into the sky, according to officials."



    The picture, also taken inside a military fighter jet cockpit, showed “an apparent aerospace vehicle described as a large equilateral triangle".
     
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    well i really don't believe every fuzzy blob of light that behaves strangely in the sky is some kind of intersteller craft.
    and i get kind of tired of people trying to make some kind of big spirit whoopdidoo out of everytime they see one.

    i would like to see sharp, clear photos of non-aerodynamic objects, that couldn't possibly fly, floating in the sky, "the way bricks don't".

    i find it incredible that there would not be sapient non-humans on at least some of the planets orbiting some of the worlds in the goldilocks zone of the solar systems of other stars,
    and perfectly reasonable that some of them have technologies advanced enough to build interstellar craft.

    the problem is actual distances versus probable life spans.
    and that annoying little mathimatical constant that represents the relationship between mass and energy that is often refurred to as the speed of light.

    whether there is a way around it or not remains unknown. generation ships carrying their own self sustaining environments are of course one solution known to be potentially possible.
    sending robotic probes across the vastness of interstellar space, as we have sent to neighboring bodies in our own solar system are also a perfectly reasonable possibility.
     
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  6. WOLF ANGEL

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    Looking at the Maths - coupled with Philosophical logic.
    One brings it down to a basic question of statement:=
    Either We are the only/highest form of intelligent life in the known Universe - or we are not
    Whether 'Contact' has been achived however, that is another question - having sent out Voyager many years ago, it may may.not be, a matter or time for it to be understood - Communication comes in mant different ways
     
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  7. I've personally seen at least a couple of unexplainable lights in the night sky that my friend also saw who was with me at the time to verify. I've always been fascinated by the subject and kept an open mind about it. I just know what I saw wasn't of this world.
     
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  8. Drager1

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    Alot of photos and stuff can be passed off as bs. But when you get video evidence alongside highly credible witnesses,, (the David fravor nimmits encounter, along with a few others), that also ties in with what Bob lazar was saying in regards to how those things operate,, it gets very interesting.
     
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    Bob Lazar interview with Joe Rogan. You’ve got to listen to this!

     
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  10. stormountainman

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    I will get back with you about a strange air/space craft which had landed in Texas in the 1890s long before talk of Roswell. They locals buried the dead person or persons in it. They printed the article in a local Texas newspaper. I can't remember the name of the town but will look it up and report back. ##### Look Up Aurora Texas UFO Crash Incident 1897 ###
     
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  11. stormountainman

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    I know Bob
     
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    Look up Nessim Haramain
     
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    The George Knapp interview is worth a watch too.
     
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  14. stormountainman

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    In the Bible we have the story of Ezekiel being taken up into space in a ship which he told was a "Wheel within a Wheel" and taken so high that Ezekiel saw the earth turned into a blue ball which was surrounded by Black. The only way to experience what Ezekiel described today is to take a ride in the space shuttle. His report from 3000 years ago must have been based on a true experience. He could not have dreamt that up. And it was important enough for the Hebrew Scribes to write it down for future generations.
     
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    Yeah, George knapp I believe,, asked for permission to exhume the grave,, permission denied and the head stone disappeared.
     
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  16. stormountainman

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    I knew about it back in 1975 and went to the place and was greeted by their local defense forces. They didn't want me to look around. An old man there told me they threw the pieces of the craft down a well shaft or a root cellar or something. Their thinking on it was Biblical.
     
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    Ah yes, I forgot about the well shaft.
    Also the Disclosure Project is worth a Google for anyone who hasn't seen that. There's alot of testimonial by military official. I can't find the video on YouTube.
     
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    In the spring of 1992 I was coming home one evening heading East on the township road. Right above me and off right there was a whole bunch of lights that appeared to be laid out in a grid and this thing was pretty big and I could see it was curved like a large sphere. At the time I thought that City lights had somehow gotten projected up in the sky above me. The problem with that is Fargo is 70 miles cross-country from me and this thing was right above me so I don't believe that anymore. But I have no idea what it was.
     
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