Do you believe in God?

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by drew5147, Jan 5, 2010.

  1. Emanresu

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    Not only do I not believe in any dogmatic god, I do not believe in any "higher power" or "something big out there" or anything of that sort. The reason I don't believe in any things of that sort is that I honestly don't see any evidence or any reason for believing in them.

    Why do you believe that there is something big friendly invisible and well meaning? What compels you to accept the existence of this entity to begin with, and what compels you to conclude that this entity is friendly and means well?
     
  2. famewalk

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    But the most powerful is out there, for otherwise how would I believe that it isn't some man, some general in the army, some action of a misguided user of equipment, or just BIll Gates who won't allow that better more community oriented computer software on the market. I would prefer that the most powerful is the supernatural God and he convinces me that the powers that be can make me See that it can be over-rated.:prettyplease:
     
  3. Monkey Boy

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    There are certain times in life where you can sense there is something more. Whether during meditation or after vigorous exercise when your mind is completely open a glimpse of it can be seen.....or when you lose a loved one and the shock of it opens your heart to the feeling that there is something bigger. Something heavier.

    Science is excellent at observing the universe from the outside in. Luckily we have the chance to view things from the inside out and find meaning.
     
  4. MokshaMedicine

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    I dont know. That word again. Is there something behind creation? I think so. It's not something to define though, it is eternal, and if you give a name to it the construct of whatever that name means in your mind will die.
     
  5. IntellectualCurious

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    there's no reason, no purpose, no logic for a god or supreme being. get over it people, let go of your imaginary friends and welcome to 2010.
     
  6. MokshaMedicine

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    If you put it as "supreme being." No definitely not. The only thing that may exist and is similar is global consciousness.
     
  7. thedope

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    In real terms, any thing less than absolute, is an abstraction.
     
  8. MokshaMedicine

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    So you are saying to believe in only less than a higher power is speculation as well?
     
  9. thedope

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    Yes, reality is an inviolate constant.
     
  10. MokshaMedicine

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    And if you open your eyes to the circumstances and thus the possibilities, you know something is up. I know most would say such beliefs are only speculations as well, but it just an integral part of our experience as is falling to the ground. As we've shortly discussed in that other thread, quantum entanglement could be physical explanation for such occurences.
     
  11. thedope

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    There is no prohibition against knowledge.
     
  12. MokshaMedicine

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    I disagree, In the minds of those that have been brainwashed to the point of 0 connection of all things surrounding there definitely is. It's so funny how many coincidences will occur and people will continue to explain them only as such.
     
  13. thedope

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    There is a reluctance to admit or allow, but not a prohibition against it. Nothing is hidden.
     
  14. onesublimesister

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    But how do you explain this to the people who think they have the knowledge when all they have is someone's skewed perceptions of it? Yes, it's out there, but getting people to find it instead of sit on their asses accepting things they're told is a problem.

    And no, I don't believe in God. That's the original question in this thread anyway.
     
  15. thedope

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    We can't explain it, only the effects of their own efforts can teach them. When and if they are ready, the truth is always held out to them.
     
  16. onesublimesister

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    Fair enough, but it's very difficult for me to wait for them to realize the truth. I feel like they're hindering the "wholeness" the planet. Though, I guess this is where I get to practice my patience. grrrrr
     
  17. thedope

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    How does the truth treat you and which do you prefer, these are the choices we have access to.
     
  18. onesublimesister

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    The truth treats ME just fine and I prefer it. It's when others don't know the truth and screw things up. The trickle down effect sometimes takes my original choices from me, leaving it in the hands of people who have no idea wtf is going on. i.e. politicians, evangelists, parents etc.....
     
  19. gushtunkinflupped

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    It was hard not to giggle at my atheistic/rational reductionist mindset after psychedelics, especially dmt.
     
  20. IntellectualCurious

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    look at what happened to Galileo, Descartes, etc.
    science and rationale stiffled, strangled, and silenced by the church.
     
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