Do We Ask Too Much?

I do realize it is probably intended as a joke, but I still think it was probably written by some sexist pig I'm not taking it too seriously, it's just offering something to discuss...

 

But probably not a male one for a change :2thumbsup:

 

20 - 43 some are contradictions while other are synonyms

 

one is 'a father' the other is 'a good father' - two different things?

I did find where it originated:
Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women
(Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women is a 1991 nonfiction book by Pulitzer Prize winner Susan Faludi)
http://gendersexandsocmvmnts.files....merican-women-three-rivers-press-19912006.pdf

 

Perfect post Meliai. Not everyone values the same thing. For example money; my girlfriend and I could pretty much not care less about money. The things you listed hold true for having the most inherent value.

I could, if I was a more sensitive person, be insulted by the "Man" list in the Op. I am a human being, not a St.Bernard. Those values on the list may hold true for many unfortunately, but we can assume it's a generalization for comedic purposes.

 

Hahahahahhahahahahaha to Aerianne for first opening post....LOL

 

I don't think I've ever taken out the garbage in my life. (maybe when camping). That went straight from my brother, to my male room mate to my husband. lol.

 

Lucky!! I consider myself somewhat of a feminist and a strong woman but I also like chivalry sometimes. I guess the last guy I lived with actually believed in equality between men and women too because we always fought about who was going to take out the trash, not that I really mind, but it just seems like such a guy duty.
Like, don't you guys enjoy taking the trash out?? Doesn't it make you feel manly?

 

You people have watched way too much Leave It To Beaver.

 

Hmmmmm...
"Husbands, it’s a simple enough of a task: take out the trash for your wife! Nobody really likes to do this mundane task, but someone has to. When I was still in high school and living at home I remember my mother teaching me a great lesson that has stuck with me for over 15 years. All she said was, “be sure you always take out the garbage for your wife. It will mean so much to her.” I think this remained with me all these years because her remark kind of came out of nowhere. We weren’t talking about the garbage, we weren’t talking about my future wife, and we weren’t talking about nice things a husband could do for his wife. It was something that really mattered to her. I’ve thought about this a lot and I am convinced that this is not just about waste management for your household, it’s about strengthening and treasuring your relationship."
Read more: http://www.jefftalks.com/2010/spouse/selfless-acts/take-out-the-trash/

 

nah, I'm more into The Brady Bunch

 

My girlfriend takes out the trash. As do I. It's more of, I don't want this in the house kind of thing. I end up doing it more often though. It is one of those inherently "man" kind of jobs.

Like women and dishes.

 

Hm, yea, I'm all for equality and stuff too but I must admit I like that he always, every single time, takes out the trash for us-without complaining. It's just a nice, simple thing but does make me really happy now that I think about it.

And yea, as for Aeri's comment ... as much as I am for equality and stuff that doesn't mean I don't also like traditions for some things-as long as they work for both people... and taking out the trash isn't some hard thing that bugs him, so, works for us.
I also pack his lunch every day and bring his coffee up for him when he gets up for work and that's something I do everyday so it's give and take.

But, yea, I was brought up thinking the trash was the man's job too by my mom... just w how she always had my brother do it.

 

ha, have to say, "Like women and dishes" sounds sexist, while "men taking out the trash," doesn't sound as sexist to me, interesting... I'm trying to figure out why and maybe it's because taking out the trash is easy peasy compared to doing dishes.. I just think it's sweet for a man to take out the trash for a woman and not make her lift something possibly heavy/stinky.

On the other hand, looking back on my last relationship, which was horrible, I didn't mind doing the dishes at all.. but when he'd leave sticky, greasy gross food on the dishes without rinsing them in the sink, that would piss me off.. Also, when he would use just one dish and fail to wash it himself, come on dude, it's one dish but I guess you just like stacking dishes in the sink x_x

 

I know exactly what you mean. I do the dishes as well. We both do anything, there's no designation. Though, I more often take out the garbage and she more often does dishes. Why? Because they do seem gender oriented (100+ yers of social conditioning), but also because I don't want to make my girlfriend lift heavy smely bags, and because she doesn't want to hear me whine and bitch when I have to do dishes. Lol

She hates vaccuming and never usually does it. I dunno why, but I just do it. Sometimes I feel guilty asking her to do dishes, so I'll go clean the toilet or something.

I do kill bugs and fix the plumbing. Household chores do seem to have some sort of gender assignment, but I think if something needs to be done, it's nice for whoever to just do it, if they can.

 

Taking out the trash takes 5 or 10 mins TOPS once a week.

And I know some people have dishwashers and eat out sometimes and/or don't cook much but if takes me between 1 and 2 hours a day, most days, to do dishes.

Big difference.

That said, I don't mind doing the dishes but yes, what I DO mind (very, very much) is when hubby decides he's just gonna leave his dirty dishes laying around, not throw out his food scraps, or yes...rinse things off (if it even made it to the sink)... he does THAT for enough days straight and I tell him to please throw out his food scraps and put plates in sink because otherwise, I'm starting to feel like a maid, not a wife.

 

6. Look good
7. Be presentable
8. bj

 

So... I shouldn't be asking my lady to do the dishes in a french maid outfit?

 

Yeah, also have to consider family size. I have to wash dishes for my two kids and I know you have a little one so it's constant of washing dishes..

 

Clean the toilet?? You are trained very well, indeed. It's a joke! It's a joke! I'm sure your girlfriend appreciates that though.