Do people still have power without guns?

Discussion in 'People' started by monjuod, Feb 9, 2014.

  1. monjuod

    monjuod Guest

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    i have to write an essay with this topic. just want to know if anyone has an idea bout this. :)
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    It depends on the people, their position and the specific circumstances I guess. I like to think in general people do still have power without guns, yes.
     
  3. YouFreeMe

    YouFreeMe Visitor

    Of course. Man existed before guns did. So, the obvious answer would be yes. But...it also depends on what type of power you are referring to! And who are "people" and the power to do what, exactly?
     
  4. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I assumed the power to go against the authorities and/or the people with guns.
     
  5. junglejack

    junglejack aiko aiko

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    “I'll carry on, carry over, carry forward, Cary Grant, cash and carry, carry me back to Old Virginia, I'll even 'hari-kari' if you show me how, but I will not carry a gun!”

    ― Alan Alda in a classic Mash episode
     
  6. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    Better stock up on Molotov cocktails
     
  7. odonII

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    Another classic Mash episode?

    I think the majority of the world does not carry guns - are they powerless?
     
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  8. wcw

    wcw Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Ask Mahatma Gandhi if people are powerful without guns.
     
  9. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I just called him and he said no. :confused:
     
  10. wcw

    wcw Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I spoke to him in a Séance and he said yes.:)
     
  11. puggybear

    puggybear stars may twinkle-but I shine!

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    Guns can change the way you die.
    Persuasion can change the way you live.
    Nobody who carries a gun is powerful-if they were,they wouldn't need one.
     
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  12. BeachBall

    BeachBall Nosey old moo

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    Or to put it another way ... this is a typical essay question, in that it is loaded with words which beg the question and invite assumptions.

    Your task in answering the question is NOT to make those assumptions.

    This essay question is not really about guns ... it is about the concept of "power". What do we mean by it? You need to address THAT question first ... and at length. Once you have answered that, THEN (and only then) can you turn to the question of whether guns confer power; whether they are necessary to power; and whether power is lost when the gun is removed from the equation.

    Gee - I wish I'd been able to see as clearly as I can now what an essay question was really asking back when I was still at school. LOL
     
  13. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Haha yeah! :D

    One of the better ones :2thumbsup:
     
  14. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    There are far gnarlier weapons than guns...I may be dead when they get thru with me, but they will wish they were when I am thru with them
     
  15. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    My toaster works.

    Let's toast to life.
     
  16. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I've got to clean my toaster. People can get sick of it now :p
     
  17. MikeE

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    You know what has power?
    A stop light has power.
    Turn red, all those people stop. Turn green, all those folks giddyap.
    No gun. Just three light bulbs.

    What it does have is the understanding of the people.
    Some might say that folks do what the light says because they are afraid of the cops. And while the theoretical path: ticket, failure to pay, bench warrant, arrest has a gun on the arresting officer's hip at the end of the chain, I don't think most folks obey the light because of their fear of being ticketed.

    I think that people stop because they don't want to get creamed by cross traffic.

    Everyone knows what the lights mean. They know that other folks know what the lights mean, and that others are going to act based on the lights.

    That's where power comes from, the community (of drivers in my example) each respect the power because we agree the universal respect of that power makes things better.

    "Do what I say or I will shoot you" doesn't work too good. It might work for a short while, until "you" figures out how to run away. The end result is everyone stays away.

    Power comes from the actions of the community, not from fear of a gun.
     
  18. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    Eyes.

    At a busy gas station a woman was about to cut me off and steal my pump. The glare from her eyes told her that I wasn't going to have that, that I was going to that pump whether I had to ram her car first -and she lurched to a stop.
     
  19. puggybear

    puggybear stars may twinkle-but I shine!

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    Mike,you've obviously never driven a freighted road-train through London.
    Red lights would appear to apply ONLY to vehicles with engines,in That London.
    Cyclists totally ignore the bloody things.
    it's all 'nose down,arse up,elbows going like bees wings' thinking they're invulnerable to a road-train flattening them just because they have a poncy camera in their plastic hats as they jump the lights...I've seen SO many rucks caused by it,plus two fatalities.
    [had a couple of...erm...'discussions' with trappy cyclists myself,too]
     
  20. Meliai

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    a person who knows how to think and reason with their own mind has power.

    a gun is just a false sense of security.
     

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