Do nice guys finish last?

to start, i apologize if the type of wording i used in previous posts portrayed any kind of cheap generalizations. Because i assure you, i didn't mean them.

Do you ppl truely think i haven't gone through trial and error before reaching conclusions? Have any of YOU taken it upon yourself to actually experiment, observe, or so much as test your OWN theories before telling me I'M wrong?

I've become the asshole. I'm not proud of it, but i altered my personality in several ways and subjected myself to several examples of your average types of girls and women alike.

To my surprise in 8 out of the 10 observational cases,a good combination of narcissism and disrespect followed by a healthy dose of disregard for their existence had very positive effects upon how the subjects chose to interact with and around me. Its actually quite sad, because i developed a side theory based on this that a woman who is attracted to assholes is such, not out of stupidity, but out of emotional masochism.

but, untill i'm able to conduct a cultural research from over 100 subjects, i can't say anything for sure, but from the personal experiences gained from these procedures, i believe that i'm at least on to something.

 

Conclusive proof, that men adopt and adjust their ethical stances based on how likely we think it is to get us laid

 

Or perhaps it's just the type of females you are going after.

 

Im not saying that you're wrong. From purely mathematical point, you've probably attracted more women. My question, however, is: What quality of relationship are you able to have with these women, with them being insecure enough to want to go out with an arsehole, and you feeling pressured to keep acting in a way that isnt natural to your nature?

Sure, you might get laid more often - well done - but that doesnt prove it all.

 

i'm a fan of nice guys in sweaters.

 

lol, actually, I have to give this a slightly more serious response.
Dude, how can you possibly consider your experiments valid, clearly, anyone who tries being nice to a girl as an "experiment" to see if it makes her more likely to go out with him, isn't really a nice a guy so you could be experiencing some major data corruption right there.

Also, you're assuming that it is all or nothing in each stereotype that attracts the girl. For example, maybe the girls find you behaving more confidently attractive, even if they don't like you being mean.

Have you considered being nice, y'know, not deceiving them about your intentions, not cheating on them, and just being a bit more assertive.

It might spare you a kick in the bollocks from a woman in the long run

 

I personally would never date a guy if I knew he was a jerk.
I tend to date guys who are gentlemen, but outgoing and confident at the same time.
I don't think there's anything I hate more in a guy is arrogance.
I'm not too fond of shy guys, though.
I like to know what a guy is thinking.

 

bang goes the international shirt market

 

nice guys don't finnish last >_<

 

to all who lectured me about altering behavior to get laid: I didn't do it to get laid, i did it to gage reaction. to SEE what would happen.... once i know, the old me was back and feeling comfortable again.

i change for no one but myself. If you think for one minute i would be with anyone that would only accept me as anything other than myself, you're SERIOUSLY mistaken.

as for bonsai's second comment.... i had yet to think about the spite factor.... so you may be right about that. they may have only been reaction to the outward confidence, DESPITE the abrasiveness.... i'll have to conduct further study.

 

This happened to me just in the past couple weeks, I met this chick at a bar, she gave her number, we went out to play pool (first date), sang some karaoke, i payed for everything,we went back to my place, i thought we had a great time. We went out a couple more times and then she informs me that she already has a bf, and hes not treatin her right, that I'm too nice, and shes attracted to the assholes like him. I'm like what a bitch, why didnt she tell me that shit way back and I wouldnt even have asked her out on what I thought was a date? Shes still comin to me on msn complainin about how shitty hes treatin her, so I've been tryin to be more an asshole to her when we talk. I dunno if its workin yet, but we'll see. I hate always bein the nice guy.

 

Why the hell would you want a girl that used you like that. See this is what I'm talking about when I say "maybe it's the type of girls". Now there is a perfectly nice girl out there who would love a nice guy. Yet you are going after this skank who basically used you cause of her boyfriend. Now you want to be more like him to get her when she'd likely do you the same way. Stop tryign to get with these dumb bitches.

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I never really thought of it like that, I guess I should up my standards a little bit, fuck her if she dont like me for me

 

Yes. I'd consider myself a very nice guy and yet my past 3 girlfriends have all cheated on me. Either that or supposedly i "attract people who lie"

 

Hehe... how about button up shirts?

 

I always find that for some reason I am attracted to guys who are cocky and slightly rude. I wish I wasn't but I am...

I mean sometimes I've dated/liked reallly sweet guys but .. generally I lean in the other direction

 

Its simple: People desire what does not come easily, if your to assessable, your not a challenge consequently not interesting and vice versa.
Yes, nice guys do in fact finish last in most situations ! But not all, uncertain one....

 

Yeah, the nice guys always finish last. I'm living proof. haha. I'd never hurt a girl.

 

I found the solution to this is to get the Fiendish Sodoku from the sunday times tattooed onto my forehead.

Girls see me, and they see a challenge to be completed.

I would heartily recomend this to all nice guys.

Also, crosswords, and dot-to-dot puzzles can gain similar results