Do girls care circumsized/uncircumsized?

:H.......which, of course, your's are not? Since you are probably referring to me, how about answering some simple questions I have asked about the psychological effects of circumcision, the history of the masturbatory 'cure' in the US and Australia, the mutually exclusive conundrum of circumcision vs. condoms in Africa, the input of a whole field of Medical Science, including reasearchers, at circumcision.org ,and the use of generalities in law or therapy. These are honest questions - although to be ignored does get my gander up. Not ignored, but told they are unrational, etc. I'd love to watch you in cross examination, or is that a part of the profession you eschew? C'mon Cutted, get in an honest, albeit intense discussion. Answer the questions and stop feeling attacked.

 

Herpes is technically contagious at all times. It's simply a lower risk when the person is not in the midst of an outbreak. I've read this from -multiple- sources throughout my life and I don't want to be telling people they can go around fucking folks with genital herpes without a condom because there's no chance of them getting it themselves... yes it's a lower chance than with an outbreak but russian roulette with std's just doesn't sound like much fun to me and I figured people ought to hear the information that I've heard from a great many sources.

 

Cross examination - I was a prosecutor in a race murder, death penalty case, and the defense counsel put the accused on the stand and I got to cross examine him. I broke him, and he was convicted. So yes, I have done XXM.

To answer your points - a circumcision a few days after birth is nothing compared to the trauma of birth for a baby. I don't think that the "psychological trauma" of circumcision you talk about is a reality. It may be a diffferent case for a circumcision after a boy is older - you have to be very careful how this is approached, and there should be medical or personal reasons why it is done - the boy has to want it, or a doctor tells him that it is necessary to fix his retraction or infection under the foreskin problem which has been bothering him, if there is no other solution. It is the same in Africa or elsewhere for HIV and STDs - if that is a major problem in a society, circumcision is a minor procedure which may prevent that person's death or the spread of the STD or HIV to others.

In Africa, some tribes circumcise as a puberty rite at age 12 or 13 - it is a symbol of reaching manhood, and the boys want to have it done. It is a badge of honor to be circumcised. But many other African tribes do not circumcise, and in the studies they used subjects from groups that ordinarily did not circumcise, in South Africa, Kenya and Uganda.

I have previously cited studies which have shown significant increases in HIV rates in African countries with a low level of circumcision versus nearby countries with high levels of circumcision, for example, Nigeria (high) and Zambia (low).

I pick up from you that you dismiss studies done in Africa as irrelevant in "white" countries. However, with the world's populations becoming more mobile, HIV, which started in Africa, has spread around the world, to China, the US and Europe. And STDs are rampant. In one study, it found that maybe 40% of Americans are infected. Anything that can be done to stop this scourge is justified.

You trumpet how sensitive the underside of the foreskin is for sex, and it is this same sensitivity that makes it particularly important for the entry of HIV and STDs into the male body, if the penis is not cleaned carefully immediately after sex before the glans retracts back under the foreskin.

I know I will never convince you that I am right, but a lot of other persons are reading these posts, and hopefully they will see the light. Also, check out Timbit's recent post including an ABC news report on the importance of circumcision in preventing HIV and two other studies.

 

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