Do Christians bother you?

because my actions are not based solely upon one opinion that i hold. i have a million other things that determine my actions, not just that i believe in christ's message. do you even know what i believe about christ's message? do you have any idea what parts of the bible bring about my skepticism? my doubt? my outright disagreement? only knowing ONE part of my opinions does not entail taht you can instantly decide what it is i will do given any situation. there's more to it than that. you ahve to wait and see. it takes more than one factore for you to understand another's soul.

 

total bull. absolutely wrong, and i'm kinda feeling sad for you. you're very indoctrinated.

 

i agree. maybe i'm arguing in the wrong thread.. i'm trying to prove that it's perfectly natural to pass judgement on a group of people who acknowlege the fact that they're a member of a certain social group, be it religious or otherwise (hippy, etc.).
of course you wouldn't look at a person who calls himself hippy and decidedly hate him, but you would understandably conclude certain things about his nature. this is based on both- all the other hippies you've previously encountered, and, what you know about the hippy 'rules' and lifestyle, etc.

the problem with this thread is, a lot of these people are truly bothered by the group called christians, whereas i'm simply saying it's reasonable to pass reasonable judgment.

 

more like inoculated.:H

I was a christian. Big Time. I was so far up Christ's ass I could tell what he had for breakfast.

Faith, Blood of the Lamb, Rapture, End of days, Armegeddeon, Holy Spirit, Rose after 3 days, Immaculate Conception, Choson people.

Translation: Insane Fanaticism

 

yeah, that's some creepy shit....aaaaand totally far removed from my life. people like that give me hives. they're not the only christians on this planet. give it a rest.

 

okay, well i have been discussing the group of christians that fully believe the entire bible and message it brings. the fact that you deviate from that, makes you.....?

 

a christian. a normal, happy, believer in christ.

 

actually the christians I get along with don't believe in hell, so i'm not saying their beliefs are wrong just some of them
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when someone tells me they're christian, i assume they accept the bible as god's truth. entirely.

 

but let's not get confused. i believe the bible is full of some brilliant lessons and metaphors, that living according to the 10 commandments will truly make your life healthier and happier, i just don't think it's literal in the normal definition of the word. the lessons to be learned are truly profound and should not be ignored, no matter how unpleasant. though there are parts that you can tell outright are totally indicative of the time. but i'm not going to dislike an entire half of my husband's family because they do believe so. i've never seen them hurt a soul, and have only been helpful and loving, even to the 3 gay men in the family. life is life. people are people. i prefer to see their gentleness and accept it, not be "bothered" because they're christian.

 

I mostly agree, whether it is ethnic, religious, or what, we all do it. We generalize about groups. Germans, Brits, Canucks, Chinese, Indians, etc. would not be what they are if they did not have certain qualities that make them stand out.
There are lots of members who do not share whichever trait you point out, but that isnt the point.
I would not say Christians bother me, they dont. Some may try...

I just really dislike if people believe that cuz you are Christian you are gullible, or cuz you are Canadian you love beer, but there are only a few such views that are bad enuff for me to comment.

 

People bother me in general.

 

well, you really need to let go of that. basically, what a christian is is someone who believes in christ's message. the rest of it is of infinite variety.

 

either way, i've stated my point, and that is that passing fair judgment is perfectly normal, whereas feeling hate towards a vast group of people is not. i don't hate you, kc, nor do you bother me! the fact that you have stated you're christian only means that i logically assume things about the way you conduct your life.

... and now, i have to go start supper....

btw, i'll gladly marry you, samhain, esp. if it means i'll get uk citizenship! haha

later-

 

you know, we all disagree amongst ourselves, too. i don't believe in the catholic hell, i don't believe that all non christians will be tormented, i don't believe that sex is evil, and i think that christ had a wife. makes more sense to me. there ARE so many things about the political document that became the bible that i have to read around. i have to seek further. i therefore seek through other faiths and wisdoms, but i am still a christian.

 

Those are themes central to the bible and to being a christian.

Christianity: The belief that Jesus of Nazereth, being the only begotten son to God, was crucified and killed on a cross to atone for Adam's original sin. That this same Jesus of Nazereth rose from the dead 3days later and will come again at the end of time to pass judgement on mankind. Those who accept Jesus Christ as their savior are freed from their sinful nature and are rewarded at the end of their mortal life with eternity in heaven. Those who reject or are ignorant of Jesus Christ as their savior are still bound by their sin nature and accordingly are cast into an eternally burning lake of fire.

 

this is a hard subject to discuss, because there are too many different opinions and no way to really prove any of them. Thats why I usualy try to keep everything to myself because with my anger problems arguing isn't a real good idea. But it bothers me when someone is so extreme that they go out of their way to hate someone else. I just figure that as long as they aren't hurting anyone they can do what they want.

 

something being the normal way of doing things doesn't make it right. racists take their normal need to process information and turn it into hate. the fact that you're not a total prick doesn't mean that there's an error in your processing.

 

totally not right. that's one group's, or perhaps several groups, concept of what a christian is. for example, the SDA's don't even believe there's an eternally burning lake of fire, that the unbelievers just die for good. there are also those who believe that the texts were accumulated for political reasons, that christ's message of love for ALL your brethren is the key to a good life, that giving your life to the guidance of god is key. i am not a superstitious person, and probably in prior years i'd probably be burned alive for my beliefs, but there they are. i am a christian.

 

That was the universally accepted (and most popular) definition of Christianty.

Incorrect?

What is your definition of Christanity?