Do any of you Christian folk...

I guess I was upset because your fun was taking place at some of my friends' expense, Fuzzy. They are really very good Christians! It's just hard to view posts like yours, because it hurts to know how against us the world is... Well, I know I can speak for myself, at least.

I never suggested that they're weak-minded, though. I suggested that they're human, and will respond with anger when provoked. Believe me, I find myself in that very situation a whole lot - I don't respond as I should - and for those moments I fail to do what is expected of me, I carry shame on my heart. I try to remember the words of a great man, a man of the Church, when I respond to others. St. Frances de Sales said that the pen is mightier than the sword, so words can be weapons, just as much as any sticks or stones.

While I appreciate your compliments (and I do, they're very sweet ), I'm gonna suggest that if you'd have caught me on a different day, at a different time, I might have been a bit... well... I hate to say it, but... bitchier?

 

HippieLongstocking, this is something that ive also felt from before i was christain, and back to my multifaith/hare krsna days...although that wasnt that long ago, i just never got the point of injesting a poison

 

LOL! To become immune to poisoning, of course... I'm just kidding, hun.

On a serious note, I suffer from several forms of depression. THC has been found to be a synthetic neurotransmitter.

http://www.intheknowzone.com/marijuana/brain.htm

In a deficient brain (like my own, ROFL) that doesn't produce much of any neurotransmitter, it seems to help more than harm... That's why I have to take 5-HTP and Mucuna Pruriens suppliments daily. The first makes up for the seratonin I lack, and the latter makes up for my low dopamine counts. If I could take regular prescription psyche meds without becoming stark raving mad, I would.

But I'm going to go a step further... If all of these people who have been prescribed some sort of anti-depression med at some time in their lives had just smoked some reefer instead, and let's say it them, then what is the difference?

It's a matter of a chemically-contrived man-made substance versus a nature-made naturally-growing substance. I just happen to trust nature over man.

 

rofl.... hahahahahahaha.. Reminds me of the time I found Datura Innoxia growing in a neighbors flower bed (they have really pretty flowers). I grabbed the seed pods and a few friends of mine toasted them like pumpkin seeds.

I ate ~2-3 tablespoons of the seeds- tasted good. About 30-45 minutes later I hallucinated that I was at work painting- came to with a friend standing in front of me laughing his ass off.

So I went to a friends house a couple days later with a bunch of seed pods. Cooked 'em up and gave em to a few different friends. 2 people (Reckner and Keller) I gave extra seeds too (so they could do it again later). The morons ate the extra seeds too after I told them they could be killed. Keller started chugging shampoo and pissing in the corner of this girls apartment and I was chasing Reckner around the stairwells in this apartment complex to make sure he didn't kill himself or someone else (he was mumbling to himself the whole time).

The funniest thing about it was how they were able to communicate with eachother, but couldn't talk to anyone else. They were so fucked up... hahaha..

My other friend (no name mentioned) took the seeds and ended up in a parking lot without his shoes, wallet, or car keys (later on he remembered that he had taken off his shoes and stashed them with his wallet and car keys behind a dumpster). He thought he was playing football with our crew in the parking lot when a cop showed up.

The cop said "Noname, what are you doing?"
Noname "I am playing football with my friends"
Cop "Where are they?"
Noname "They were just here a second ago..." (realizes he was hallucinating them)
Cop "Are you alright?"
Noname "I'm fine.."
Cop "Allright, be safe then"


Wow... that was off topic.

 

that was acctually in reference to alchohol, not weed...

but i do think many of mans "remidies" probobly cause just as much, or more than weed does...and i in no way shape or form dispue some of the medicinal effects of THC

 

Well the Bible say nothing at all about smoking weed one way or the other. It does mention incense now and again, but that it totally different. It say not to get rip roarin' drunk, but it does not say not to drink at all. Maybe weed can be viewed the same way, it is oaky to smoke, but don't get so stoned that you can't move. Yes, I have been that stoned.

 

kind of a change of topic....but an interesting one...i'd be curious to see everyone's responses.


When Adam and Eve sinned, it's THEN that all the weeds started growing, and men were cursed with toiling against them (working for a living) and women were cursed with pain during childbirth.

Is WEED not in fact a....WEED??

it was not in God's original , perfect garden.

 

is this waht it says?...ive never heard of that before

 

EXACTLY!

 

Genesis 3


The LORD God said to the serpent,
“Because you have done this,
cursed are you among all animals
and among all wild creatures;
upon your belly you shall go,
and dust you shall eat
all the days of your life.
I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will strike your head,
and you will strike his heel.”

​

To the woman he said,

“I will greatly increase your pangs in childbearing;
in pain you shall bring forth children,
yet your desire shall be for your husband,
and he shall rule over you.”


​

And to the man he said,

“Because you have listened to the voice of your wife,
and have eaten of the tree
about which I commanded you,
‘You shall not eat of it,’
cursed is the ground because of you;
in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life;
thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you;
and you shall eat the plants of the field.
By the sweat of your face
you shall eat bread
until you return to the ground,
for out of it you were taken;
you are dust,
and to dust you shall return.”


​

 

True.

That is correct. Weed is not a weed. It's percieved by society as a weed, because weeds are bad for other plants, but the cannabis plant (which marijuana is made from) is a plant that produces flowers just like any other plant out there. It is not a weed, the name is a human connotation. =)

In fact, in many ancient cultures, the cannabis plant was heralded as a miracle plant. The only reason America and the rest of the world don't see things this way is because of a man named Harry Anslinger, who pushed with all his heart for the substance to be illegal, and came up with an oh-so-brilliant propaganda scheme (including both the Reefer Madness) episodes, and he cited sources that both don't exist and never said what they said, but became the head of the DEA anyway because people liked him so much. =\

seahorse: I like your signature! =P Satan is bad, Jesus is good, be like Jesus! Excellent! =)

 

Yes, you're right... It's actually more accurate when people refer to it as "herb". That's what it's growth habit is: http://plants.usda.gov/cgi_bin/topics.cgi?earl=plant_profile.cgi&symbol=CASA3, meaning that it isn't harmful to other plants. That's why people who illegally farm reefer are advised to plant it among their tomato bushes to disguise it... Because it doesn't harm the growth of the tomatoes or the hemp.

But the point of the non-smokers here is basically that no one should want or need to smoke if they have the L-rd in their lives. I think it's awesome that they've totally lost any want for stuff like that... However, like I said earlier, I don't think it's a prerequisite to salvation, or even being a decent Christian. Or maybe that's just what I'm hoping, take it however you like.

LOL. It is cool. Simple, yet straightforward...

 

i forget what it was i was watching, but an Indian said that weed had always not been good, he said even the cows wouldnt touch it...ic ant remember what it was though, i wish i knew

and about seahorses sig: i dont like it solely on the second commandment

 

you're silly, Burbot.

Anyways, i've been wanting to change it, and that's what i did!

 

I'm afraid I'm confused. Would you please explain why? As people who call ourselves "Christians", the very nature of the word means that we strive to "be like Jesus".

Even if you don't believe in the Divinity of our L-rd Jesus (as many churches don't, I'm not knocking you), He is viewed as the human who would make "the Way" known to other humans... The person whom we are to follow after in order to attain salvation, meaning that we should act like Him, and thus "be like Jesus".

I'm not relating how this has anything to do with the second commandment. Perhaps you can show me?

Second Commandment
"You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I The Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate Me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love Me and keep My Commandments."

 

i think this refers to making ANY IMAGE of any of the prophets, or of God or Jesus Himself...

i also dont think we should "try to be like Jesus" since that is an unobtainable goal anyways...

 

there are f few things i would see as "less bad" for example, often the way Mohammed is depicted, with a covering over his face, so we cont see it, cause we dont know what he looked like, i hold the same sort of belief for depictions of Jesus, but it would be best to just not depict Him at all...

but the last thing i want to get into is a preaching battle, so yeah

 

O, I see. You were talking about the picture. I disagree with you, but in the sentiments of your last comment above... Yeah. LOL!!!

I know, it is an unobtainable goal. But if we always strive to be like Him, then that means we are always at our personal best. At least, that's how I see it.

 

see, i follow what He taught, i dont try and be like Him, like wear sandles, and walk around preaching and healing the faithful

 

LOL surely you didn't think that by telling us to be "Christ-like", Jesus was referring to an outward appearance, did you? Christ did tell us to go out into the world and make disciples, and spread the gospel. I don't think that meant walking around preaching like we're not from this planet, but to be like Jesus in our daily living, and take every opportunity to show love and be a witness to the truth.

Jesus was talking about our hearts, dude! How we reach out to a hurting world and show it the Love of the Father like Jesus did.
on a side note concerning Christ's appearance, there is a verse in the Bible that says that Jesus was not attractive, so that no one would desire him. And being from the east, he musn't have been a white man with blonde hair as so many pictures depict him to be! He was dark, and unattractive according to the Word.

Oh, and at the time the 10 Commandments were made, people were carving and making thier own gods to worship instead of the true living God. The gods of the earth now include all kinds of things...money being first on the list, sex, drugs, belongings, even spouses and children. We still make our own idols and put them above God every day. As human beings we seem to avoid the very thing that is best for us!

Also i would like to point out that the new testament came to pass to complete the old testament, where the 10 commandments are found. In the new testament, God says that all the commandments are wrapped up into 2 commandments:

1) love God with all your heart, soul, strength and mind, and
2) love your neighbour as yourself.

if you follow these 2 commandments, then there's not a whole lot of stealing, lying, jealousy, killing, committing adultery, ect........your heart ends up being in the right place. That's why God doesn't mind the little stick figure i had in my signature. He saw my heart.
love you dudes!