Disassemble the US government.

Discussion in 'Protest' started by skip, Feb 11, 2007.

  1. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    Who is "them"? And what makes them different from "us"? We the world, the world is us.
     
  2. primalflow

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    It goes without saying that We are One Being. If a Being developes cancer, do We say "what makes the cancer different from the other cells" just for the sake of arguing, or do We deal with the problem?
     
  3. walsh

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    If we are one being, then we all share the same characteristics. It is that which builds the society we live in. Nothing to do to change it. We create the cancer ourselves. If we are crap people, we build a crap government.
     
  4. primalflow

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    So everybody is exactly the same, and We all want to screw ourselves over? Are a brain and a liver exactly the same? No. Are they separate Beings? No. Different parts of the same Whole. One part may be a heart and another an asshole.
     
  5. Dude111

    Dude111 An Awesome Dude HipForums Supporter

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    The time to do that was right after the 2001 election was stolen Skip!

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  6. walsh

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    Do you look at a tree entirely differently from everyone else - no, you look at it from the knowledge you have been inherited from your culture, nothing more. It is that which forms the society, and does not differ from person to person. Our bodies are different, but it is not that which forms government. Look, if we were really good people we would not need laws or government at all.
     
  7. primalflow

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    Or perhaps if there wasn't such a rigid legal structure, people wouldn't have to rebel against it.

    And perhaps if there wasn't such a rigid societal structure in general, people wouldn't feel the need to do things like steal things that never truly belonged to anybody, or constantly intoxicate themselves to escape such rigidity, or just rebel in general for the same reason, and many heinous criminals wouldn't be put in conditions that leave them "disturbed".

    Most "mindless" crimes are just misdirected outbursts of unnatural tension from people who feel powerless to direct it properly.
     
  8. walsh

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    Why do you say tension is unnatural? It's everywhere in nature, as I see it. I don't see any need to try and establish that people are 'good'. That's just an arbitrary value our society happens to hold.
     
  9. primalflow

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    The point is the established legal system clearly doesn't make people good, and if anything, only makes things worse.
    And the established societal system also creates more problems by adding unnatural tension, not that all tension is unnatural, that was your generalization not mine, just the tensions cause by the lack of freedom woven into the fabric of modern civilization, this should not be here, or we would not naturally and even subconsciously react negatively to it, and those of us who still know how it feels to feel human would not feel the chains dragging on our souls as we do.
     
  10. primalflow

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    Down with countries!!!
    Down with governments!!!


    (Why the hell can't I capitalize this?)
     
  11. willedwill

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    Now they want to degenerate the possibility of the "MAIN street at WALL street discussion" to a discussion viz. the computer (and ordinary company contacts; which maybe should stick to the bottom line) into STRAW DOG communication. Used to be called lip service.

    Whose they you may ask? The enslaved demonstrators are being presented the STRAWDOG moralizing of personal opinions (unfounded and undeveloped in the conscience of the undegenerated) for the sustaining art of ordinary Manhattan commercialism.


    WHo suspects these hippy dupes and model chicks are not here and there for justice in cushy jobs.:beatnik:
     
  12. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Don't get down, turn on, turn off, tune in.
     
  13. willedwill

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    It won't work anyway. Are these people for instance all in favour of the money market along with their ambitions of being video store developers.
     
  14. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Well, knowledge is material and so, takes up space. Innovation is always individual because not every one cares to use the space in their mind to know, rather to speculate and imagine and titillate, diffusion. But yeah, in general people want comfort, not truth.
     
  15. UXnIHAOnUXbmUXn

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    Sorry Skip, but I'm afraid the Koch brothers would buy each state one by one.
     
  16. xmas

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    This was what I wrote about in my dystopian NWO book. And the funny thing was, it all started with that! We decentralized our government, there was instability, then a WW3 with warring states and warring nations, and then corporations took over because of their mass amount of power--and then with the American government gone it was easier for corporate greed to fund a centrally driven World Order. This is where it leads, the grass is always greener on the other side--we have to work within what we have before pulling the rug beneath each other. I also wrote that we were warring for assets like oil in the NWO, so we're heading there in some ways, but we need to do something though--like have a revolution of consciousness and eliminate the power groups that are not in the people's interest. There are a lot of them. Why can't conscoiusness be a part of the government, our gov. is a crazy evil genuis right now, and it needs to be handled like a mental patient, we need to stabilize our government, and then give it some therapy on what it means to be free thinking and representing millions of consciousnesses.
     
  17. tikoo

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    the will of the people needs loving care
     
  18. thedope

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    I think the will of the people indelible and inviolate. We all share the same will, that to be. We have not because we seek not, individually.
     
  19. tikoo

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    when the will of the govt is to be this can be a troublesome
    condition , like canniblism is . i observe govt becomes predatory .

    strip this institutionalized will to the bone and you can
    have a govt that is primarily Informational . a CIA is ok
    when it is not willful , like our librarian is ok when not concerned
    if people wear shoes or not .
     

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