Disapointed with LSD

Wrong. Psychedelic drugs mimic a lot of the symptoms of schizophrenia, which is naturally occurring.

 

Intended? So you are arguing from a belief in creationism/intelligent design?

 

I guess.
Psilocybin isn't exactly required to keep the body alive though.

I don't believe that a mushroom evolved to house a psychedelic drug for the sole sake of man's betterment. Organisms do not do things to exclusively benefit other species.

 

I don't know where you get your facts, but the human body does not produce psilocybin lol.

Um.
no.

 

Neither do I. Neither do I believe that organisms develop defenses from an intent beyond the synchronicity of form and function, period.

 

Organisms develop defenses in order to stay alive and continue the species.
That much is obvious without trying to insert personal beliefs about the nature of reality into this.

 

It is not that obvious. You are regarding convergence of opportunity as a reasoned intent. These things develop during the replication of genes. That a particular form develops, is a matter of probability.

 

I know this is a fairly common scientific belief. But outside of maybe the occasional delusions psychedelics produce, I think schizophrenia symptoms are alot more closely related to dissassociatives than psychedelics. Derealization, depersonalization, true hallucinations, and delusions of grandeur or persecution are alot more common effects of drugs like PCP and ketamine. The latter I know from personal experience.

This stuff has not really been studied for over 40 years and had only about 20 years of study before that. Dissassociatives have been around even less.

 

I understand the concept of natural selection and have no where stated that it is the product of conscious intention. Of course it's a matter of probability, but that doesn't change the fact that the mutations of the species that are most advantageous to prolonging the survival of that species are going to be the most successful.
This ping-pong match with you has strayed so far from the original topic that it isn't worth continuing.
This was about whether psilocybin is present in mushrooms as an antipredator adaptation. Can you offer any explanations as to why psilocybin would be present but would not be in the role of a defense mechanism?

 

Expounding on this, I might add that schizophrenia is also not a desirable state of mind and is the product of developmental issues.
I.E. it's not healthy.

 

I agree, I have a brother in law, and his dad are schizophrenic. It is not desired, and for his father it was a bad accident that brought it out and it never went away. For the rest of his life he is going to think he is every Looney Tunes and Disney character there is. And his son runs away from helicopters and yells "They aint got shit on me" jumps in car and skids off.

I'm sure they do not desire to be like this, but they don't even know they are not normal and deny thier problems.

 

I cant wait to try lsd hopefully soon

 

Hands down the best, most well rounded, complete drug there is.

 

why do most threads end up saying "lsd is the best?" lol

 

^ because thats how a lot of people feel i guess

 

I didn't say that. But it naturally enters states similar to a mind influenced by it.

Then I doubt it was 'intended' for much of anything. Nothing more than a long chain of cause and effect.

 

well ya but like there'd be a thread on how unusual it is that that some guy only cums in a girls ass in the morning or some shit and the discussion ends up saying "lsd is the best". if the thread gets long enough
only on HipForums i guess

 

i dont know dude, one and a half of the shit i took propelled me to a different dimension.

 

This thread was starting to delve into other drugs and my own schizoaffective breakdown, I thought we would st back on topic. Obviously we can't generalize to everyone but I think to alot of people LSD is just the most complete. Ive used mdma, ketamine, and cocaine alot more than LSD, partly because I think something lacks in the experience or in the case of MDMA I'm try to recapture the initial bliss and euphoria it brought.

 

How ketamine? lol