diff between jazz/blues?

Discussion in 'Performing Arts' started by sheeprooter, Oct 30, 2004.

  1. gnombient

    gnombient Member

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    Don Cherry's playing style was different from Miles' playing, his influences were different, and his direction was different; sure they both played trumpet, but beyond that it's almost like apples and oranges. I love them both, but I'm not going to say that one's better than the other in a purely musical sense. (Technically, Cherry would probably win-- although sometimes the notes you leave out are more important than the notes you play...)

    "Jazz" isn't a very good label much in the way "rock" isn't. "Jazz" is too stylistically fractured at this point to really pin down any characteristics beyond a focus (of sorts) on improvisation. Even "blues" isn't necessarily a good label-- do you mean Chicago Blues, Delta Blues, blues-rock, etc.?

    Jazz grew out of a mix of various influences: ragtime, gospel music, military/brass band stuff and the blues. The origin of the blues I'd guess dates back to slavery; song forms might have derived from folk songs, and the call-and-response qualities common in the blues probably stem from field songs, hollers and chants.
     
  2. moe-ron10091

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    guys you may as well give up. there is so much jazz in blues, and blues in jazz that it's impossible. there are so many sub-genres in each that it overlaps and is impossible to cleary state the difference. they just are what they are. the only thing you can do is check out some people in both blues and jazz. blues recomendations: Stevie Ray Vaughan, Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson
    jazz recomendations: John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Thelonious Monk
    fusion recomendations: Mahavishnu Orchestra, Weather Report, Miles Davis from '69 and on
    blues-rock recomendations: Jimi Hendrix, Cream, early Led Zeppelin

    Peace and Love

    --pW--
     
  3. thisismike

    thisismike Overlooked/Uninvited

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    Most blues is rooted out of a I-IV-V progression. Red House by Hendrix, Most of what SRV, Albert King, Buddy Guy and Muddy sent down the pipe were I-IV-V. There were exceptions, hell John Lee Hooker could spend days on the same chord.

    Jazz had much more of an open spectrum of destinations, not to take anything from any of the bluesmen. Guys like Miles and Coltrane were constantly pushing the envelope and redefining the genre. And they were significant influences to Hendrix, Clapton and other players who were pre disposed to the blues.
     
  4. jesikhaviolet

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    its hard to change blues - blues stays pretty much as it is, otherwise it becomes a different type of music, which probably already exists

    jazz is mad, and very versatile to do what you want with. it usually has more complex chords and a lot of strange sounding melodies
     
  5. jesikhaviolet

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    you're definitely wrong there - there's a line between the two. they come close, and yes there is a lot of them in each other, but they're incredibly distinguishable (probably spelt that wrong)
     
  6. Orsino2

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    Yeah... but can you go from blues to jazz and jazz to blues and be able to tell... :D ;).. I do it a lot, though.
     

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