diference between Islam and christianity?

Yes, I do read the Bible.

The question asked was what is the difference between Christianity and Islam. Then the statement was made that Christians and Muslims worship the same God which many people, especially in America it seems, believe.

I don't know if you're a practicing Muslim or familiar with Islam. We can go into some of the essential differences between Islam and Christianity, but before that we can address the belief that the God of the Bible is the Allah of Islam and that Muslims worship the God of the Bible.

I've already identified the differences between the Allah of Islam and the God of the Bible and shown how they are not the same. If you disagree and contend that Muslims worship the God of the Bible or that Christians worship the Allah of Islam, maybe you could explain why this is the case.

 

Christians believe in one God. The Bible talks of false gods made by man but maintains that there is but only one true God.

"Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me"(Isaiah 43:10)

Christianity says that all men are sinners and we are guilty before God. We can not save ourselves from our sins by being a decent person and loving our neighbor. We should love our neighbor as God commands, but we must be saved through Jesus Christ in order to be forgiven for the sins we are guilty of. We will be punished for our crimes unless we receive pardon. God has a means for a pardon. You must be saved through Jesus Christ.

 

Yep, there's only one God...point made again.

One problem with this rationale is that it's based on an absolute literalist perspective on the Bible...and to begin with, it's hard enough to define what literal is the correct literal.

Adam + Eve = Original Sin = sinful nature and guilt for all succeeding generations. If you think about it hard enough, it's not difficult to see that it's an absurd concept in a literal sense, a workable one if viewed as broad-based and symbolic.

 

Fedup,

The Bible says that we do not know when Christ will return physically but that he will come again. God also commands us to be vigilant in waiting for His return.

We know that no one gets out of this world alive. We will all stand before God one day to be judged for the sins we have committed. The punishment for sin is Hell. We are all guilty, "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"(Romans 3:23), and will be condemned.

That is, unless we receive pardon for our sins and God has a made a way for us to experience pardon through His Son Jesus Christ. According to Scripture in order to be saved you must realize that you are a sinner, repent of your sins (this is a complete U-turn on the road of life-a change of heart and a change of mind. It means you are willing to follow Jesus Christ and to receive Him as your Savior and Lord.) and receive Jesus Christ and what He has done for you.

To truly receive is to trust in and depend on Jesus Christ alone to be Lord of your life here and now and your Savior for all of eternity. Trust in God's sacrifice. It's more than knowledge, more than agreement, it is trust in Jesus Christ alone for eternal life.

Nothing we can do on our own can make us righteous before God. Isaiah 64:6 says our righteous deeds are filthy rags. But Jesus, who is perfectly righteous, died in our place, a substitutionary death.

He's ready to exchange his perfection for your imperfection.

"I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life"(John 5:24)

 

I was answering Fedup's question.

 

That's very close to my point.

I guess I'd say that a literal view of the Bible is very hard to argue for in the present day.

 

Wow, that's a long post. Anyway, none of these citations say that these gods are real. All through the Bible men make gods to worship, but they are idols made by the hands of men. Also, all through the Bible God says that there is no god that truly exists other than Him.

 

You ought to read the Bible the way it was meant to be read, in context.
You can read whatever meaning you want into an isolated passage, but you're only fooling yourself.

 

Fedup asking how we can be saved when Christ has not returned yet. I gave him the Biblical perspective on how salvation is possible.

 

Alright, let's talk about that.

 

There are people who call themselves Christians who take the Bible out of context to suit their needs such as the "Christians" who used the Bible to justify slavery in America. But these people are not following the Bible, they are taking a certain passage out of context from the rest of the Bible and reading their own meaning into it.

 

If you think that the Bible is misinterpreted within orthodox Christianity, lets talk about some examples of this.

 

We should read the Bible for all it is worth, as a whole and in context.

 

My final take...you can't make a logical and reasonable argument for the Bible using only the Bible. People who try to do this are in total cognitive surrender, I have to agree.

We're saying the same thing.

 

You're going over my head with that...I know it's a complex and often-cryptic document but don't know it well enough to confidently state such a conclusion.

 

If christians truly followed the bible then they would control women...pray mulitple times a day and killing non believers....its all in there man...you just don't do what your god tells you to...and shame and judge others that do....

 

Heron, that's a blanket statement and simply untrue. First off New Testament Christianity is very different from Old Testament Judaism. Which is also different from Islam. Which is in turn different from other Abrahamic religions etc. Where does it say we should CONTROL our women? It speaks of women at that time and place being quiet in service because they weren't educated and were disrupting the speakers. Didn't God speak through females? It says that in the Bible.

As for prayer multiple times a day I'd say a lot of us do that. I for one do. Most of my Christian friends do.

As for shaming and judging others I say you're right on the money there. There's an overabundance of that in Christianity. It's wrong, hypocritical, and shouldn't be allowed.

 

Jesus had his own things to say about women and the role they should keep....read up on it....Besides...isnt the WHOLE bible your gods word???

How can you pick and choose which is which?

 

I didn't pick and choose. Christ did. There's some things that were allowed in Judaism that isn't allowed in Christianity. There's also some things that are mandatory in Judaism that isn't in Christianity. Christ's death freed us from Jewish law is the belief of most Christians. For example we can eat pork but can't marry more than one wife. It's forbidden. Why? Because Christ said so.

Why did he say these things? Not 100%. But, it was probably because the hypocrisy of following customs yet treating other people like dogs was not to his liking. Now I'm NOT saying all Jewish people treat other people like dogs. I do think though Jesus didn't want to give anyone a reason to feel holier than thou. Something I think Christians are more guilty of than anyone else.

So, yes the whole Bible is the word of God. He (Jesus) knew as God some things had to undergo change. That's why I think that The New Testament is the last of God's words up until now.

 

Christ had nothing to do with Christians not having to follow Judaic law...you can thank Paul for that...it was all part of his "get rid of this problem" plan he had for the gentiles....i like to call it "Jew Lite"