Did Holocaust Really Happen?

Hahaha ok tramp...who has the nuclear weapons again? Israel. Palestinians shouldn't be killing inocent people, of course, but in the end it's their land and Israel has no right to exist in the middle of a boatload of arab nations who don't want them there and have lived there for hundreds of years. For you to try and pass it off like Israel is the victim...oh please.

 

The Song Of Peace


Let the sun rise

And give the morning light,
The purest prayer
Will not bring us back

He whose candle was snuffed out
And was buried in the dust
A bitter cry won't wake him
Won't bring him back

Nobody will return us
From the dead dark pit
Here - neither the victory cheer
Nor songs of praise will help
So - sing only a song for peace
Do not whisper a prayer
Better sing a song for peace
With big shout

Let the sun penetrate
Through the flowers
Don't look backward
Leave those who departed
Lift your eyes with hope
Not through the rifle sights
Sing a song for love
And not for wars

Don't say the day will come
Bring the day because it is not a dream
And within all the city's squares
Cheer only peace

So...sing...

 

So you agree with Israel covering up the fact they have nuclear weapons and then looting all our US tax money for their defense? Fuck that...i'm sorry but I don't feel like I should have to have my hard earned money go to Israel so they can make bombs and blow up little kids ok?

 

Do you not know that the Jews have lived there longer? The Jews lived there before the Muslim religion even existed. More recently Egypt was controlling the so called Palistian lands before Israel. The lands in question truely don't have any historical owner. It has changed hands many times just like most land throughout the world. Do we have to find the tribe leaders that very first claimed land to know who it "really" belongs to(it still wouldn't be palistine). It doesn't work that way.

About the comment of the Israels land grab in Lebanon; what land did they grab exactly? They pulled out a long time ago. The Israels don't want to spend another couple of decades taking care of Lebanon, the have learned from that mistake. They are more about attacks to reduce capability and then running back to Israel.

As for the holocaust, it really happened. Throughout history there have been groups of people who were persecuted and killed. The holocaust just happens to be one of the worse.

 

The term "Palestine" isn't an Arab term it's Roman. When the Romans conquered Israel they renamed it "Palestine." Which is an offshoot of Philistine who were more of Greek decent than Arab. The term "Palestinian" did not come into existence until after the six day war in 1967. It was a political maneuver.



Bustramp

 

Israel is an abomination.
It's existence has caused nothing but death and misery.

When it is wiped off of the map (physically and metaphorically) I will weep for those who are unfortunate enough to be caught in the crossfire, and thank god(whoever that might be) for it's long overdue end.

All this pain and bloodshed, over a such shitty piece of dirt....

P.S.

Past genocide of one people does not excuse current genocide of another.

 

Between 1922 and 1946 the British enacted the Balfour Declaration Nov. 2 1917, which pledged the establishment of a national home for Jewish people.

July 1922 the British divided Palestinian two districts, Jews only permitted in west Palestine ( which is now Israel).

1946 the British Partitioned Palestine and created independent Palestine Arab state Jordan.

Nov. 29 1947 UN votes 2/3 majority to partition Palestine into a Jewish Arab state. The Arabs reject it.

1947 Israel declares it's independence, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt and Iraq invade Israel but Israel survives.

That's just a little bit of the history of the conflict, it's been in conflict ever since.




Bustramp

 

Exactly:

Between 1922 and 1946 the British enacted...

July 1922 the British divided...

1946 the British Partitioned...

Nov. 29 1947 UN votes 2/3 majority to partition...

1947 Israel declares...

Imperialism borne out of Imperialism.

Fuck the british, fuck the israelis.

Cause and effect.

Fuck em.

 

I guess you're not for peace......




Bustramp

 

"They plunder, they slaughter, and they steal: this they falsely name Empire, and where they make a wasteland, they call it peace."

- Tacitus

There are a multitude of things that are far more desirable than what the Zionazis call "peace".

Freedom being first and foremost.

Give me liberty or...

 

Hahahaa bustramp you support a state which lies about having nuclear weapons and uses the holocaust as an excuse for genocidal policies...yet shane isn't for peace. I don't want Israel to be wiped off the map and have millions die, but admit it, if israel went away today there would be a lot more peace in the middle east.

 

well one day when the west blows that piece of shit Iranian president and his fuckin religion back into the stone age, the president of Iran should ask himself what it feels like to be on the recieving end of his own rhetoric. I hope the west acts soon against Iran as they are certainly becoming too much to stomach and I always like to see an asshole like him burning

 

Yes, good job, way to have informed, unprejudiced, and well thought out opinions.

 

Israel is not a genocidal state. That's a load of crap. And so what if they have nuclear weapons - they were invaded three times and it was their destruction was the official policy of several neighboring countries.

No genius, there was no Palestine there before. Jews have always lived there, it did not take imperialism to put jews in Palestine.

Israel is the most prosperous, democratic, and free country in the middle east. Why should they care if the extreme left and islamic fundamentalists hate them?

So what? Countries or ethnic groups should "go away" whenever some other countries decide they don't like them?

 

You're right, it took imperialism to put european zionist jews there.

Amazing, when the commies build a wall it's an outrage, when the zionists do it's... what?

Occupation, expansion, oppression and genocide was not a good thing when europeans did it in north america, australia, south america, caribbean, africa, india subcontinent, asia, pacific island nations....
Is ther any stretch of land on this earth that hasn't at one point or another be on the recieving end of european colonization?

How is israel in 20 century any different than the the u.s. in 1845 , or south africa in 1948, or hawaii 1895, or mexico in 1518?

just because the people doing it today call themselves jews doesn't make it any better or justifiable.

it's like a star of david is now a get out of jail free pass...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism#Zionism_and_the_Arabs

 

They never have and they never will, which is why eventually israel will cease to exist.

common sence dictates that when all of your neighbors want you dead eventually you have to move or be slaughtered.

 

Not necessarily true if you reach out your hand to your neighbor. Begin and Rabin knew that and worked towards it. We tend to look at the world today in the sense that there are cowboys and indians (good/bad, black/white)...that's just not true. The world is made up of many groups and none is better than the other. Sure there are differences, but if we all choose to respect others, they will in turn respect us. If we choose to paint others as evil and enemies they will picture us similarly. Don't let your life be manipulated by those that will prosper from the manipulation, instead ask, why am I here, who am I, and how can I make the world a better place for the majority?

 

It is true.

Regarding cowboys and indians, the world remembers what happened to the indians...

the lesson: fight, flee, or die

Israel is getting exactly what it deserves, less than what it deserves actually.

Genocides in history

"Because I do it with one small ship, I am called a terrorist. You do it with a whole fleet and are called an emperor."
-A pirate, from St. Augustine's "City of God"

solidarity with the palestinian people as the fight the same battle as millions before them.