Did anyone predict this election fiasco?

I don't dabble in conspiracy theories. I dabble only in what can be proven. That's why you don't hear me talking about space aliens and stuff like that.

I cannot tell people what to do, as that is not my intent. My intent is to simply talk about things and help to wake people up. Only once enough people have broken their media-induced mass-conditioning can we begin to talk about solutions. People cannot begin to change things if they don't know what they're up against or who they're fighting.

 

YOU know...so...why don't you offer up any solutions? It just annoys the crap out of me that you're so doom and gloom, yet I've never heard you mention any solutions.

And conspiracy theories don't just include alien and ghost shit like that. It involves a lot of political and economic system "stuff".

 

There isn't. I'm not saying anything like that.

From all the polls and surveys that I've seen, people are more likely to vote for a black man in the USofA than they are to vote for a woman. There is more uncertainty or uncomfortableness voting for a woman. There is widespread racism in the USA, but from what I have seen, Obama is a man - and more likely to win. I mean, many of these attitudes I think carry over here as well. I'm just saying. It's a label to be a woman sometimes more than it is to be black when it comes to running for office. Always has been up here, I'm sure it has been the same down there. Women typically don't run for office. And that's essentially my point and my two cents.


A Gallup poll survey for the reasons why people say they won't vote for Hillary Clinton:




It's my opinion now, that Clinton will lose. Clinton winning in 08 alone would be a miracle given her tin ear and Obama's baloney.

 

Most of the things Matt talks about can be verified in...get this...books...by folks such as the Rockefellers...Brzezinski, Quigley, etc....

I mean, to simply call him a conspiracy theorist is ignorant. Try reading some of the books he talks about...all of this is widely talked about amongst the extremely rich and powerful with the knowledge that the general public will not seek out the info (the books). Now is your time to seek out said books, if you would like a list of some of the books I have found and read, to verify much of what Matt has said but the big names, movers and shakers of the world, I can offer some suggestions.

I mean, you all know who the Rockefellers are? Rothschilds? I mean, they openly brag about their extensive power.

Check out the Club of Rome, committee of 300, trilateral commission, CFR, RIIA...all huge think tanks and NGOS right under your nose! Look at who starts them/heads them/funds them..look at the histories. I mean, this is shit that is out there to anyone who does the research.

 

I know what conspiracy theories are. The term "conspiracy theory" alone was invented by a think tank in the 1960s, as a way to marginalize anyone who discusses things outside of the realm of mainstream thought. While it's true there are many conspiracy theorists and conspiracy theories regarding a number of issues and events, I try to go based on things that can be proven. These would be conspiracies and not necessarily conspiracy theories. I really shun that term.

Most people have never taken the time to go back and read the old books written by the people who have helped to shape the world we are living in today, which most people think is perfectly normal. It seems normal to them because it's the system they were born into, and the system their parents were born into. If people were to do some research into the old books by these major players, they would see that these people openly admit their plans. They don't keep it a secret because they know much of the public is too dumbed-down and apathetic to care.

It just so happens that the things they talked about are beginning to unfold today.

It amazes me that people cannot see the direction in which we're headed, and if they do they simply see it as some coincidence that happened overnight and will change if we simply elect the right person into office. They don't realize that, while they were sleeping, these plans have been in the works for a very long time and are just now starting to rear their ugly heads. People are so conditioned that they can see cameras everywhere they go, and police dressed up in riot gear, thinking it's perfectly normal. Do you see people getting angry over their rights being taken away or their food being genetically modified? No, because people have been DOMESTICATED, just like sheep.

So what I do is talk about the things I know. I never claimed to have all the answers, and I as one person don't have the power to change anything. I am just one among many who have chosen to look at things critically and inform people about what I know. They don't have to agree with everything I say, but that is my contribution, as small as it may be. There isn't much more that I or any one person can do. It depends on many people becoming informed and waking up, and if more people started talking about what's real (instead of what the media tells them) a lot more people would be in the know instead of in a stupor and blind to the world around them.

 

well said sir.

 

Maybe so, but you STILL have not answered my question.

 

But I believe I have answered your question.

 

OKAY. Before I get started on Pressed Rat, I'd like to say, Aris. Just because someone is saying they wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton doesn't mean they are saying they wouldn't vote for a woman. Anymore then saying they wouldn't vote for McCain is because he's Irish.

And furthermore, the naughty bits of a canidate aren't the reason they should be voted for.

 

Did I say I didn't believe him? Nope, I nowhere said I didn't. I want some solutions. So instead of calling me ignorant, or anyone else that may question him, let's read my ENTIRE post first.

Mmmmk? Thanks.

 

Nope, I've received no solution. You're talking like a politican. Talking around my question instead of actually answering it.

I'm not saying you KNOW the exact solution, but instead of throwing out there that there is something crazy shit going on...which most of us here on the forums, believe it or not, actually believe and know...let's start discussing solutions.

That's why shit never gets solved...we complain about the problems, but never discuss the solutions.

 

Dancerannie im pretty sure the ONLY way to solve the deep problems that societies roots have been tangled in would be to overthrow the people who control the country, and the politicians.

Thats unrealistic, because it will never happen.

 

You have again, not addressed any issue, and rather tried to mitigate your challenger by stating that if they do not agree with your positions they are in step with the government/media/power hedgemony.

It is a facile argument, and it ignores the issues. Blah blah blah think critically... blah blah 9/11... blah blah... genetically modified food. It's a wild tangent which doesn't adress anything specifically.

Here are two of my favorite 'outside the realm of mainstream thoughts' conjectures which you have championed.

1. Airplane contrails contain chemicals which are used as warfare against the public.

2. Fusion bombs inside the twin towers.

Fusion bombs. First off I'd like to state that a fusion bomb is a nuclear bomb which cannot be set off without a radiation spreading fission reaction.

I appreciate you offering these gems to us who are blind because we don't invent no physics and reality for our alcohol fueled delusions.

 

*shrugs*

8% of people in that survey said they wouldn't vote for Clinton because she was a woman. How many do you think wouldn't vote for McCain because he's Irish?

 

Well, I don't believe fusion bombs brought down the towers. I have considered a number of different things, though. What I do know is that it wasn't aluminum airplanes or jet fuel, nor was it conventional explosives which caused the entire buildings to pulverize into fine dust in a matter of 10 seconds. I am not going to get in to what exactly brought those buildings down because I frankly don't know. I just know, based on looking at the evidence, that it wasn't what we were told.

Now the chemtrail thing is getting more and more mainstream media attention everyday. The German media admits to these operations over their country, and there have been several news reports done in the states that more or less admit to these operations occurring.

For instance:

NBC news: Chemtrails over California

Local news station confirms barium in chemtrails

Chemtrail Proof - German Military Exposed.

 

I wouldn't vote for him because he's old.

I'm not saying there isn't some aversion to Hilary because she's a woman. But that isn't the largest consitunency of the aversion to her, and like I said. I don't think picking a canidate because of their naughty bits is a rational critique.

I would suggest that many of those people who said that to a pollster who called probably aren't informed enough on the issues to actually go out on election day.

 

You have posted a thread regarding fusion bombs in the towers. I have no idea what you think today. And apparently, neither do you.

It was very clearly raging fire which brought down the towers of structures weakened by large airliners slamming into them.

 

What does Pressed_Rat's opinions on Chemtrails have to do with the upcoming election?

I wish I could zap people on topic sometimes.

*catches a bolt of lightening and holds it menacingly*

 

Yes, that's what you were told by the government and its lapdog media. You apparently have no problem parroting this.

There was no raging fires on 9/11.

However, there have been raging fires in other highrise buildings which lasted for literally days, yet did not bring the buildings down.

 

Because he derails threads about anything political with his inane ramblings that we should abandon all hope, and that we're naive sheep for voting or paying attention to politics, because we're not paying attention to the real issues, which is a vast intricate web of lies pulled over our head.

I was pointing out the absurdness of some of his webs of lies, as to hope he would try to not derail my thread with his trollish conspiracy tripe.