Did anyone predict this election fiasco?

Heres some more about the molten metal.

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/canofficefirescauselargesteelcolumnsandb

Most people think they see thing more clearly then others.

Heres some more misrepresentation by Jones.

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3279843&postcount=115
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=78031
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3090765&postcount=19
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3150130&postcount=233
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/stevene.jones'thermitethermateclaims

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/conspiracistsmisrepresentwtc7'scondition

And for fun heres a Penn and Teller clip about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I

 

Penn and teller is the shit, did you watch that bottled water one i posted in the water thread.

I think they got banned from tv or something.

 

Yeah, it's why I posted it. I saw you post the bottled water thing.

And nah. There still making new episodes. It's on showtime.

 

Reports of molten metal in elevator shafts may have been babbitt metal, which is used in elevators and melts at about 460F.

There were some reports of molten metal in WTC6. That may have been due to the lead in munitions that were storied in WTC6. That also has a relatively low melting point.

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Aluminum also has a lower melting point, 1200F which the fires easily reached.

I'm glad to have Shaggie around.

 

Bullshit also has a low melting point.

lol jks.

I cant even grasp the idea of hijackers successfuly taking over a plane with box cutters without some guy pulling a hero stunt. Swinging some luggage would be a good match against any small knife.

 

That did happen. Flight 93.

And all the passengers just kinew it was a hijaking and not a suicide plane. If a plane were ever hijacked again with boxcutters I'm sure that people would be much more likely to fight.

 

These arguments are bs. Cuban hijackers did it all they time. Passengers aren't gonna risk their lives so long as they think they will be released eventually.

 

Cuban airlines probably didnt have metal detectors and snuck on guns, and i dont think cuban highjackers were known for being terrorists, just drug and human smugglers.

And the passengers were said to have their throats cut before impact, how they know this im unsure. But im sure there would have been an outrage and attempts to over throw the box cutting scoundrals after they witnessed the throat cuttings.

 

Every argument the troofers bring up can be disproved with a little logic and a half hour of research. The only thing the troofers have left is insisting.

You're not that bad Beckner. You still probably question the things the truth movement says.

Heres a blog from an ex truther.

http://extruther.blogspot.com/

 

From wiki:

plane crews advised passengers to sit quietly in order to increase their chances of survival. An unofficial protocol emerged, in which civilians and government authorities understood that in most cases violence from the hijackers was unlikely as long as they achieved their goal (often, as during the rash of American incidents in the 1970s, a trip to Cuba).

And as I mentioned one of the 4 planes was successfully taken back from the big guys armed with box cutters. It's hard to predict the level of struggle in the other planes.

Now the situation has changed. And what are you impling anyway, that the people accepted to die?

 

I dont know anything about the truth movement.

 

Of course you do. You're quoting their talking points, and presenting their researchers. (Steve Jones) It's ll fairly easy to counter.

You may not know of the terminology. That's what they call themselves.

 

Im implying that IF the conspiracies that 911 was planned by americans was true, then other weapons could have been taken on the flights by planned security flaws.

 

I didnt know anything about Jones before hand, i just googled "Molten steel in WTC" and referenced the first result. Im sure there is more reliable sources.

 

If and could? The first ones conjecture, and the second ones hypothetical to back up that conjecture.

Theres no proof that there were guns on the flight, as evidenced from the calls made on September 11th.

And feel free to say that cell phones can't be used on flights, I can knock that one out of the park too.

 

Haha, you'd be surprised. There are none.

Steve Jones is their go to scientist, who I've already attempted to show some of his inconsistencies, and all around lies.

 

I could have said: Americans did plan the the WTC massacre and security flaws were planned ahead, and sub machine guns were infact used to take over the planes with ease.

that statement is off the map, but could be explored.

 

Yeah, but theres not much depth to what your saying anyway.

You're saying that you couldn't imagine 3 of the 4 crews not succesfully taking the flights back from the 7 or so armed hijackers, even though they were likely encouraged to not fight back by flight crews, as was the policy.

Saying that boxcutter aren't dangerous is not much of an argument. They're dangerous enough.

 

Architect Richard Gage "How the Towers Fell" (1 of 13)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW6Oez7pag0