Democratic Iraq

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by dedhead95, Jan 26, 2005.

  1. Psy Fox

    Psy Fox Member

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    There HAVE been factories that have been bought by US companies BUT Iraqi unions have killed ANYONE the US companies sends into to the factory.

    You haven an order, you have functions to sell these firms of to US companies and KPMG is in charge of privatizing (so even privatization has been outsources) so the interm goverment has intent. How can you find out names when as soon as the interm goverment anounced its intent unions poped up all over Iraq and announced the factories theirs.

    Only because the goverment is not in control of the nation but it is on the books.

    The election is a joke, remenber what Einstein said "An empty stomach is not a good political advisor". You CAN'T have a legitimate election with no water or food and blood running in the streets. Yet that is minor compaired to the fact that the US made a law that the elected goverment MUST follow the laws the US imposed which is aginst international law.
     
  2. Higherthanhell

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    First..democracy...then ..capitalism. Then after that comes corruption, deceit, and all of the other good shit amerika's so proud of.
     
  3. Pointbreak

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    THEN NAME ONE! NAME IT! NAME IT NAME IT NAME IT!
     
  4. Psy Fox

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    "The General Company for Vegetable Oils" went up for sale and there was a deal being made for it to be bought yet the people behind the deal got murdered.

    Also it is not only privitazation yet anti-compeditive practices. There are seventeen state-owned cement factories across the country, but most are idle or working at only half capacity. According to the Ministry of Industry, not one of these factories has received a single contract to help with the reconstruction, even though they could produce the walls and meet other needs for cement at a greatly reduced cost. The coalition provisional authority (CPA) pays up to $1,000 per imported blast wall; local manufacturers say they could make them for $100

    This is with a worse unemployment crisis in Iraq then that of the great depression. The people should overthrow the CPA like we here tried to overthrow the state during the great depression. How DARE the CPA ingore the plight of the Iraqi workers. The CPA is clearly an enemy of the Iraqi people.
     
  5. Pointbreak

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    Earlier in the thread you said that the US government has "already sold" 200 Iraqi firms. Now all you can name is "The General Company for Vegetable Oils", but it hasn't been privatized, you are wrong. Go ahead and prove otherwise. You have still failed to come up with a single documented example of a privatization.

    Its becoming obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about. There has been no privatization in Iraq, you just reading hysterical anecdotes from socialist websites.
     
  6. Higherthanhell

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    Hmmmmm doesn't halberton have a monopoly on every contract in Iraq? Anything that happens there goes through chenney..oops I mean haliberton. Same thing you get the jist
     
  7. Pointbreak

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    No. Next question?
    Cheney doesn't work for Halliburton. Anything else?
     
  8. Psy Fox

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    Okay I admit that should be already put "200 on the auction block" yet neither KPMG or Windrush communications can current find buyers and the deals that went through died with Iraqis murded the people involved yet they are still tring and make it clear that once violence stops in Iraq buys should be more intrested.

    So your saying [size=-1]Paul Bremer was full of shit when he said that 200 firms would be sold off?[/size]
     
  9. Higherthanhell

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    Never said chenney did work for em...he's too fucking lazy. He get a kickback, a pension and owns stock in haliberton.

    Haliberton does have a monopoly on contracts asshole..you know better than to come in here with your lying ass.
    so what else you got dickhead?

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Pointbreak

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    Let me gloat first.

    You said with such confidence that "Iraq is the US's bitch" because they stole their property and that's why "business is funding the insurgency". The US "stole power generation", the interm goverment "steals Iraqi firms to sell to US companies so they can lay them off and cut their wages" the US is "breaking international law" and "handing ALL of the Iraqi economy to US companies".

    When I asked repeatedly for you to name one of these 200 companies, you asked "What is with your fascination of the insignifigant?", dodged me a few more times and then finally came up with ONE name which you now concede wasn't privatized at all. YOU WERE TALKING COMPLETE CRAP, in fact it looks like you were making most of it up. And you accuse me of being duped by "mainstream corporate media"? YOU are the one that can't get facts straight.

    Privatization is not illegal. There is no law saying that firms cannot be privatized while the US troops are in Iraq, its says that an occupational gvoernment cannot privatize. So if the interim government (or soon to be recognized newly elected government) privatizes something, that's legal. Remember, the authority of this government has already been recognized by the UN. Your legalistic arguments have expired.

    I hope they privatize but I doubt there will be many takers given the security situation.
     
  11. Pointbreak

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    Cheney's pension is totally unaffected by the profitability of the company. It is insured. So there is no impact from Iraq contracts. His shares are held in trust for charity. He can in no way benefit from the profitability of Halliburton or the performance of its shares. What media duped you into believing otherwise?
    Sorry, but you're wrong. Halliburton has contracts to supply the US military and to rebuild oilfields (which turned out to be not much work, since there wasn't too much damage) plus a few other construction contracts. There are plenty of other contracts to go around.

    Here's one: http://www.lucent.com/iraq/

    Here's another: http://www.iraqprocurement.com/docs/new634.htm

    What else YOU got?
     
  12. Psy Fox

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    Talking complete crap?
    "Iraq is the US's bitch",
    still true the US made laws which the occuping power has no such power.
    "business is funding the insurgency",still true. They are for the laws even if they are enacted or not and the contracts all going to forieners
    "stole power generation", You got one.
    "steals Iraqi firms to sell to US companies so they can lay them off and cut their wages", was true they just failed at it so wrong tense.
    "breaking international law", still true. Even without the companies getting privatized the US has no authority to make laws thus the act of making these laws is aginst international law.
    "handing ALL of the Iraqi economy to US companies", was true. that was the plan, yet now it has been on hold.

    So lets see 5 quotes, 3 are right, 2 "where" true and one is wrong.

    Mostly right just a bit out of date.

    In that case the US still jumped the gun with [size=-1]Paul Bremer tring to sell said firms.[/size]
     
  13. Higherthanhell

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    Noticed you dodged the chenney issue completely......still don't get what your money grabbing ass is "gloating" about. A drunk driving retard for a president? Oh yea you're really brite
     
  14. Jozak

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    Why don't you learn to spell bright* before insulting someone who is, I would wager, 10 million times more smarter than you will ever be.
     
  15. Higherthanhell

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    You're both idiots if you support a retard for president brite one. It's "brite" when referring to intelligence..it's bright when referring to a light bulb..helllloooo
     
  16. Jozak

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    We never said we supported him. I voted Libertarian this year in my first election.
     

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