it might just be easier to have the an israeli war trolls/ pro war religious fanatics forum. this could be for members only and moderators could at the click of a button simply transfer people in. as the fanatics change identities they just get transfered straight to this forum without passing go. in this way it could contain all of their poison and hatred for mankind without shouting down or poisoning the political forums. the posts of the pro war trolls are really in essence advertising hatred without paying top dollar to do so.
from what i can see its never been quieter since you and your friends started to shout down discussion in this forum good luck with your war on humanity odon (and all of your friends).
durrrrrrrrrrrrrruhhhhhhhhhgghghghg you mean people are still resorting to that "everyone who disagrees with us is a an israeli spy" dogshit? I've pointed this out before. I'll do it once more, though I'm wasting my time. That article in which Isreal admitted to doing this - that is paying people to troll forums - never actually said that at all. What it said was that Israel was paying people to troll BLOGS. This is not a blog. It is a web forum, and a small one at that. It's extremely small if you look only at the America Attacks forum, which is where all this "israeli agent" nonsense is going on. Israel is not going to waste money sending people to try to convince the 15 or so conspiracy theorist regulars in the America Attacks forum of their position. This forum resides in a corner of the internet that caters extensively to drug users and people who are otherwise non-threatening to Israel's image or agenda because, besides posting some anti-semitic rants that only the other conspiracy theorists will even bother to read, they are never goint to take any kind of action against Israel that will actually matter. So please, grow the fuck up. The truth is the vast majority of people do not believe your conspiracy theories. Are all of those people Israeli agents?
I am not sure the America Attacks issue is dead. Seems we are now rattling swords against North Korea. But part of me wishes it was. GW has gone on to greener pastures but it seems our appetitite for war is not over quite yet.
I recall long ago the forum was called America Under Attack, then after we invaded Afghanistan the name was changed to America Attacks. Perhaps it's time to change the name again, but maybe Skip wants to keep it until we pull out of Afghanistan & Iran.
Sabre/Sword rattling is a threat or implied threat to use military force. How is the US or South Korea guilty of this?
"America Attacks!" was a great name during the Bush era -- because people were straight out avoiding the discussion. Now, whether Obama is a good president or bad president is perfectly acceptable conversation.
I love how all the people that wanted him, now pissed off cant stand him.. Just a big joke, No matter whos running amercia , Americans have a disease. They are a very undecided people with no leadership among themselves.. Im still gassed over the Way this winter snow was handled. Al Qaeda was talking notes. If they cant rescue a man in a snow storm, how they rescue 100's of men is snow storm bomb attack.. :coffee:
North Korea is threatening war with whomever blames them (or tries to punish them in any way) for torpedoing South Koreas' ship. Quote from H. Clinton while in Japan: "The U.S., Japan, South Korea and China are consulting on an appropriate reaction after an international investigation blamed North Korea for the deadly attack." She said the report proves a North Korean sub fired a torpedo that sank the ship, the Cheonan, in March and that it could no longer be "business as usual" in dealing with the matter. More: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2010-05-21-clinton-asia_N.htm We are talking about increased sanctions against them, and i read somewhere that we have sent a submarine or two that way.
The U.S.,Japan,South Korea and China are "threatening" political and economic sanctions,not military actions. On the other hand North Korea has made it clear ANY punishment is a phase of war and they will respond accordingly. Source? Have a link ? Or just hype......... The western Pacific is the area of responsibility for the U.S. 7th fleet, the largest of all U.S. fleets, it's safe to say "we already have a sub or two there" China will never vote in favor of any US sanction on any country. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Re source; It was days ago, and i just glanced at it. I tried to find it again but i can't. The closest i could find was this: http://www.armybase.us/2010/03/key-...ry-exercise-over-despite-north-korea-threats/ We are, and have been moving our forces around there since the Korean war. In fact North Korea even suggested that the US or South Korean navy may have torpedoed the Cheonan in a freindly fire accident during exercises. And the CIA is trying to frame them for it.
The Cheonan wasn't involved in the exercise. It was sunk 8 days after the exercises ended. That and it was a ground and aerial attack exercise. I doubt any naval ships were even involved. Joint exercise March 8-18, Cheonan sunk by torpedo March 26. The investigation team was made up of 25 experts from Korea,U.S.,Japan,U.K.,Sweden and Australia.
Alright, fine. We are not going to war with North Korea then. I was just trying to answer your question about rattling swords with them. I wasn't trying to debate you on anything. I didn't know you were already on top of this. I just find this troubling as they have nukes (and other things), and they hate the US., that's all.
I hope that's not what you thought i was getting at. This is the part we are in disagreement with. North Korea's actions were above and beyond saber rattling, i consider their actions an act of war. The U.S.,South Korean response of "possible"economic and political sanctions are far from saber rattling.
Again, i was just trying to answer your first question. I read it as you didn't know what was going on. Clearly you do, and now i've gotten myself into some kind of debate with you, unintentionally. lol I am in no way an expert on this. I just know what i've learned and read about it. I often try to look at things from both sides. The US went in and divided North and South Korea after Japans surrender. North Korea attacked South Korea, and the US stepped in again. Even though the US never declared war on North Korea, we were over there stomping on them anyway. We even threatened them with nuclear bombing until they agreed to a cease-fire. And they've never signed a peace treaty. To me, if i was North Korea, i would think of the US as an enemy of war. We still have troops, etc in South Korea, and Japan. And the Navy is floating around there as well. They said they didn't attack the ship, and we called them liars. They said if we try to mess with them they will declare war. And we are messing with them, in our own little way. Even though we're not technically sabre rattling, it doesn't mean they don't see it that way. imo We aren't rattling our sabre so to speak. But we've been circling around them for over 50 years with our hand on it, and staring at them over the fence. And now we want to reach over the fence and squeeze their nuts. That would drive me over the edge, if i were innocent (like they say they are). I'm not saying they didn't do it. But no one saw them do it. Could it be possible that they were framed by someone? I don't know.