December 22nd

Hmm... I'll be trippin on shrooms right around then I believe... I guess I'll keep an eye out for mysterious changes, but for some reason I am in doubt...

 

For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even to the west; so I command also the coming of the Man of man be.

^^east as in eastern time zone. west is the rest and even rhymes. even as evenly is self-explainatory for a happening mankind wide life altering event. Ha!

Dec 22 1:08 am est here reads as what time in you all's zones? Please get to know.

Certain ones will be like he (I) was correct then. Watch! The newest now will be upon a certain while the oldest then will be upon a certain. Two for two. There had to be one person to get this driven activation of a set course correct. O yes indeed. It is I!

 

this ought to be fun to watch.

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so i guess we can delete this now?

 

Sign Related is known for posting bullshit threads.

Tomorrow (or today) is my mom's birthday. Should be a fun, semi-uneventful day.

His last post was a bunch of gobbledygook. I didn't even understand it. It was like the words were put together in the wrong order or something.

 

my wife and her baha'i friend and i had probably the most wonderful, spirit wise, winter solstice day ever. my mom was too worried about her cats to make it over, which was too bad, but she had a good day too.

the only bad thing i know of, he was off by a hundred years. in 1907 there were a bunch of stirking phosphate miners somewhere in south america who got mass murdered.

but everything THIS year and century, at least in the lives of those arround me and myself, has been down right wonderful. also i just heard that frank zappa's birthday was on the solstice! (and i forget how old they said he would have been if he were still among us).

there was one guy, some kind of choir director at the world center/shrine of the bab, who passed away a couple of days previously.

but of course every day some one dies, some one is born, and life goes on.

oh and my wife's friend's husband, the one who was over, and ate with us and everything, she teaches e.s.l., and he's an anesthesiologist, anyway, where he works the're trying to force him to quite. but if he did it wouldn't really affect their life any, just his ego.

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The OP sounds like a wack job. The world ain't going anywhere for a while, sorry.

 

feel free is my vote, but then i guess that's probably pretty obvious

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Yeah man, I gave you a chance, but I gotta say nothing changed at 1:08 am for me. Just another moment in time...

 

Manmade global warming is one of the biggest lies made by the government. It is all about money. The climate has been going up and down for millennia. This is nothing new. In about three point 1 billion years, the world will end., The sun will swell up into a red dwarf star and incinerate the surface of the Earth.

 

well take into consideration that they mention it makes a shift every so very long, except the thing with this one is the heat shift is many times bigger than the natural ones that occur. Exponentially higher. But then again I don't really buy the whole situation itsself so take that for what its worth

 

Everything is in place. The deprogram will happen within this winter. Long as no one leaves this winter without something big and life altering happening I will be fully correct.

Bush signs $555 billion spending bill that includes war funding

^^^That's 222 flip them upside down. The 3rd big sign to my life.

And then I command appear the sign of the Man of man out the superphysical: and then I command all the tribes of the physical mourn, and they I command understand the Man of man coming out the blocks of the superphysical without power and great glory.

^^The war going on causes mourning, correct?

Bush is pres now and he'll have been the last pres as you all shall find out. Remember I said there was a Bush as gov in both states ago when I saw the sign 222 as my dorm room numbers in seperate states? It means something that now a Bush is pres signs that spending bill.

 

it is indeed the obsession with symbolic value that is the driving motivation behind what is creating the problem and the only real obsticals to dealing with it. but it is those who keep trying to deny its existence who are living in a fantasy. and pretty much any more, only fanatical loonies continue doing so.

global climate change denyers are from the same loonie bin as flat earthers.

and it IS direct conflict with the finite carrying capacity of nature's cycles of renewal that is the REAL threat to humanity's future, and that of all life on this planet.

the choice is between 'ecotopia' and collective mass suicide.
it is not a forgone conclusion, nor the intervention of some diety,
but is and remains, a CHOICE. really THE choice humanity collectively faces.

and a world of universal peace, abundance, and even gratification is WELL WITHIN the capabilities of our own hands, hearts and minds.

just as is our collective mass suicide if we continue to put greed, ignorance and fanatacism ahead of any kind of good sense.

there is no other obstical to transisioning away from the use of combustion to generate energy and propell transportation then that of major vested economic intrests and their usurpation of political proccessees.

and while further tecnological development is not undesireable, no pie in the sky is required. all of the neccessary real alternatives from an engineering perspective exist and are long and well proven.

only the obstruction of major economic intrests, with the cheerleading of ignorant fanatacism, continue hindering humanity's saving itself from this self generated self destruction.

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Humanity has already destroyed itself, were all just waiting for the final few years to play out. Do you think society is sustainable with 6 BILLION people on this planet? When was the last time you looked at a satelleite map of the Earth? Humanity's impact resembles that of a fungus, or of a bacteria. We congregate around bodies of water, block them up with dams, and then proceed to rob the land of any value and any dignity. There is no where else to go, we have developed all of it, divided the whole planet into tracts that slowly but surely get burned. Mankind has all of his natural flaws such as greed, lust, and hate for the sole purpose of limiting population. We cannot survive in numbers as large as these because we are not perfect. The human species is meant to live in small tribes, where government can exist without corruption and nature can exist as it did in times before us.

 

Yah, man ^^

I respect and agree with your post.

 

the last sentence is absolutely correct. the ones before it, other then the first, are relatively so. the first is not improbable, but it IS an assumption.

there MIGHT still be hope. but not if we take for granted there isn't.
and since we don't yet for sure know, what is to be lost by acting as if there were, grabing onto that hope and cleaning up our act as much as we collectively can?

especially when you consider, that we CAN do so, without a fraction of the discomfort we're being scared out of attempting to by being threatened with.

as i said before, we HAVE the means, it is only a matter of putting an end to, or at least reducing, the pandering to the selfish vested obsticals to implimenting them.

6 billion, and that's just the number that's admitted to us, reality of the uncounted may be much higher. it's not a matter of standing room though. there are plenty of places where you can still find that. we'll all be long gone before there isn't. but indeed a matter of carrying capacity of natural cycles of renewal and our load on them.

and yes, even six billion humans is WAY out of balance. so at some point, in some way, that number is fated to implode. we could, spare our collective selves much pain by radically lowering human birth rates untill that number fell to something reasonable, like say at most a few hundred million.

that and stop using combustion to generate energy and propell transportation, and we HAVE the means of doing so, WITHOUT giving up most of what most people want, just in different ways of going about it then we're used to.

economic fanatacism, though an aspect of the dominant culture, is not, in and of itself, inhierent in our nature, whatever statistical driving force behind it, even if it were, might be.

there are many dice still to be rolled, and many chainges of prefferences yet to be expressed collectively.

it is quite possible we have not passed a point of now return, though it is quite clear we have indeed passed a point of overloading.

un-overloading remains possible. the bennifits will take decades to appear still once the proccess gets underway. but it is still hope. and it is still real.

(and most importantly, it is STILL CHOICE!)

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Well you say there is hope, but for what? I am an avid believer of hope, but what hope is there for all of humanity? Do you honestly think that there is any chance that the necessary amount of people to change will change? That would require billions of people across the world to change the way the think and to change the way they live. And what kind of change do you think is needed to 'fix' the world? Society is a large cumbersome plumbing system that is leaking in very very many places. To fix one leak would really do very little.

My main reason for having no hope for the majority of human race is that human kind itself is very flawed. Our flaws are the very reasons that society is as messed up as it is to day and to try to change it would do nothing. The very same problem will be back again shortly. For instance, the American government, in its roots, was fairly uncorrupt (or so I am told...). Shortly there after corruption set in. By the time of the civil war the government was in a terrible decaying state. And up until now, the American 'democracy' has gone under reforms here and there, but as soon as one leak is patched up, two others pop up. The very rules that govern you and me dictate selfishness, greed, lust, gluttony, etc BUT at the same time they dictate love, family, friendship, intelligence, and other positive laws of humanity.

Politicians won't allow a birth limit, at least in my eyes. Why would they want an already failing country to start experiencing a smaller workforce and a shrinking economy? Many countries in northern Europe are more developed than the USA and those same countries are observing that their population is shrinking. America needs to follow the example of such countries as Denmark and Germany if it is to survive much longer.

 

the fate of nations is not the fate of humanity. i'm interested in the kind of world we get to live in, not in what names what parts of it go by.

nations do rise and fall, though not always on any sort of schedule.
some evolve, some get replaced, life goes on.

if you choose not to have hope that is up to you, but it is still a choice between ecotopia and collective suicide. a CHOICE, NOT a forgone conclusion nor the intervention of some diety.

pretending it is anything other then a choice, made collectively by the values we actually live by, is a copout excuse for denying the need for conscience and self dicipline.

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