i would support it, if it was an effective deterrent to crime, but its not so i dont...its also pretty barbaric and were the only industrialized nation that even considers it...also if u think about it, its kinda like killing someone for their disability (as it is considered a mental defect...its an issue of rather or not u believe someone who isnt responsible enough to recognize murder is wrong should be punished
TO: ImFuzzynutz minorities are , in texas for example, are sentenced to death at higher rates than whites who commit those same crimes...and ur wrong more whites commit death penalty worthy crimes than blacks or hispanics thats why more white receive teh death penalty, thats in terms of raw numbers, but minorities are sentence at higher rates than whites for those same crimes. http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~tonya/spring/cap/e.htm
u should check ur facts, its a hell of a lot mroe expensive to execute the prisoner than to hold him/her in jail for life, and there are more whites in jail, read my next post... http://www.fnsa.org/v1n1/dieter1.html the state of NY alone would save 90 million dollars simply by eliminating cap. punishment
ur just dumb, there are more whites in jail than blacks or hispanics(some of whom are included with the black and white races) http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/jailrace.gif
Blacks make up around 10% of the population and whites make up well over 60%. Please enlighten me as to how Blacks are almost even with Whites in prison population but make up 1/6th of the total number of whites?
To Honkytonk: because our system is set up that way... i.e. if a kids caught selling drugs or stealing or virtually any crime, in the ghetto's projects (public housing facility) u legally have to be tried as an adult...where as if ur caught selling on ur suburban block ur tried as a kid, or if ur selling from ur mansion u prolly wont even be caught(trust me i know people, bergen county is among the richest counties in the nation, i know rich kids dealing outta their mansions)...but things are getting better, look at the trends, there were more blacks in jail, back when we werent even allowed to vote (in teh south), and there was segragation, we were sent to underfunded shitty schools, and we werent given jobs on the basis of our race, but since then whites have passed them, and are continuing to in upward trends. also blacks are in for things like drugs, wheres whites are more likly to be in for murder, or coporate crime (altho corporate criminals dont go to prison they go to "detention facilities" if anywhere at all(many times they arent persucuted (buy this things called Michael Moore's the awful truth (funny stuff) in this one segment he does several times he dresses up as a cop and goes after coporate criminals who havent been persecuted or arrested altho many are wanted)...corporate criminals (not being in prisons, arent included in those statistics.) on another note, the black percentage includes hispanics , in some states hispanic isnt identified as a race so they have to chose black white or asian, many chose black, and they also look at ur country of origin sometimes, like columbians would more often be consideres white, whereas dominicans or puerto ricans or cubans as black, so again thats the govt again trying to fudge statistics to reinforce that stereotype. http://www.zmag.org/bios/homepage.cfm?authorID=96 read some of tim wises essays, there arent many, for comformation of facts "Race, Sex and Work: Examining White Lies About Black Americans" is a good one blacks specifically are put at a disadvantage, economically. black non highschool grads are 35% less likely to be given jobs than white non high grads, hispanics its near 20% less than whites as well... MIT and U of Chicago both did these tests where they sent out many resumes to jobs, to each office two identical resumes (in terms of credentials) the only difference was one had a traditionally black name (ie. talib, shavon,shiniqua) the other had typically white names (ie. dillan, susan, beth) and teh people presumed to be white were in both experements around 40 % more likely to have a call returned... this pseudo-affirmative action system we have isnt working, because its optional). All of that is to say, its no secret that poor people are more likely to commit crimes, than non poor, hence more blacks in jail. ironically a poor white kid, this is true throughout most of europe and asia (check the link as proof), is much more likely to go to jail (nearly twice as likely in Finland, and Netherlands) than a poor black kid so theres a disproportionate number in our favor (hmmm...why isnt that true here???oh gee it must be a coincidence)...
I think the "Death Penalty" is bad, it should to be an option to prisoners sentenced to life with no chance of parole. Some prisoners had rather die than live the rest of their lives in prison. They ought to have the option. Case in point: My great uncle killed himself in prison because he was sentenced to life for the killing of another man. He was guilty.
Fair enough, but the fact that it costs more money is already one strike against it. What are your reasons for still supporting it that offset this? It clearly is no deterrent to crime; is there any reason other than you want to "bring comfort to the families"? That's nothing more than a rationalization of homicide as far as I'm concerned, but that's just me.
The "retribution" theory is nothing more than revenge. The "deterrent" theory is pure bullshit...refuted by evidence. I believe that only violent threats to society should be considered for prison. The "death penalty" should be an option for the offender to decide if they rather live in slavery (prison) or die. Just my two cents.
sry i misread ur quote but that doesnt help ur argument.lol. and ur still wrong about the prison statistics
Hey, I know how to solve the problem. 1. Legalize Marijuana. Prisons will suddenly empty out, plenty of vacancy, and lots of money that is normally spent on marijuana users will be saved. 2. Replace "death penalty" with "life sentence." Yeah, it'll cost more money to keep them in jail for life than to kill them, but because the ratio of drug criminals to murderers is so high, the costs will still remain much lower than they were. And besides, a life confined to a cell is probably a much worse punishment than death.
The average death penalty case costs taxpayers millions of dollars, because there are so many appeals and because the defense attorneys insist on every law being followed to the letter. A regular criminal trial, in contrast, costs only several thousand dollars. If you assume that a convict sentenced to life in prison (with no parole) serves an average of 40 years, and a convict sentenced to death serves an average of 15 years, there is absolutely no way that the additional 25 years of food and medical care exceeds the enormous costs of a death penalty trial.
