death penalty for rape

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Nelo, Oct 7, 2005.

  1. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    well, at least send em' to jail

    sadly, our jails are packed with petty criminals too. more people incarnated in the US than any other western nation..gee, seems like I have been saying those type of things a lot lately. Part of that is because jail does not serve as a rehabilitation center (not their job), as stated by wardens/people who run prisons. so they just crowd people in who are rarely helped. we help drug addicts and people with booze problems all the time, why not people thrown in the slammer? Part of the reason people support the DP, is our jails are packed as is from what I have seen...but why are there so many people in jail for years for having a little pot, for instance, it is terrible.
     
  2. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    I think you meant incarcerated. But you're right, the jails are full. Full of people who killed, maimed, assaulted, raped, robbed and burgled. And people who got busted for a couple of seeds in the Kombi in 1070. Watch "The Wire". Spend a few days on the mean steets of Baltimore. Drive up Monroe Street and see how many bleeding bodies you see on the sidewalk. There's a reason the prisons are full. We have degened into a society of violence and indifference. That's why the violence continues and the biggest criminal of all occupies the white house.
     
  3. hellixxx

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    nah, i believe the death penalty is wrong. i used to be all for it, but now i think everyone makes mistakes, even if it is a huge one that affects other people, i don't think your life should be taken away because of it.
    i'm sure humans have been raping each other for as long as we've been around.. that's not to say that i would do it, especially not in modern times.. and i can't say i'd want it to happen to me.. but it wouldn't be the end of the world, would it?

    but yea, i think the point to where people have evolved to now, to be an educated individual and still not be able to control the urge to rape someone (not that raping people is even an urge someone should be getting), i figure they'd have to have some sort of mental imbalance.. so i guess we should just kill all the retards too, kill anyone who is below a certain intellectual level (i'd love that, there are way too many fools on this planet..)

    really if anyone just wants to make a killing squad i'm all for it
     
  4. BraveSirRubin

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    I agree, this is a violent culture...and as others said... this violence is not rehabilitated.

    Society has a simple solution to violence and crime... throw someone in prison. Prison does not rehabilitate, at most it only increases ones hate for society, one's knowledge of crime, and one's experience with violence.

    Prison generates more murder than it stops.

    Yet again, when you look at this world, you will find that the nations with the best behaved citizens are either the extremely liberal ones, or the ones with extremely radical rules (such as Singapore). It's either no jail, or jail for everything.
     
  5. BraveSirRubin

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    Also, on the subject of rape.

    I think that rape is terrible, but you cannot avoid comparing humans to animals. Animals tend to practice so called "rape". The female does not always have a choice with whom she sleeps (usually with the dominant male in larger mammals, etc). One must realize that humans are also animals. I believe that humanity is naturally becoming less sex driven throughout evolution, even though the statistics go against me. I think that humanity is subconsciously realizing that the propagation of the species is not what will make it survive in modern time, it instead has to focus on resource conservation, and food gathering. This is why society is becoming much more individual-based. Humans are separating from being one single organism into billions of organisms... it's pretty and sad at the same time. Anyhow, rape is also less common these days, because of laws mostly (but the existence of these laws can also be a result of so called evolution).

    Rape would have been viewed completely natural in an earlier stage of human evolution. Hell, you can even see massive examples of rape in modern day. People will rape other people while there's no consequence. It's a very animalistic reaction. You cannot put people to death for it.

    It's the same with pedophilia and other such so called "illnesses". You cannot kill humans for something they have little conscious control over.
     
  6. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    Pavel, if you find the happy medium, the ultra liberal nations (read: FRANCE) screams that you're oppressive. If you sweep your shit under the rug to give the appearance of having it all together (read: UK) and another nation has a crime problem (read: US) then you can scream that they're out of control.

    You can't win.

    I say, firing squads.
     
  7. BraveSirRubin

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    You can never win in this world on such matters. Every decision is both the wrong and the right one.


    I say we put all politicians infront of firing squads.
     
  8. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    That's a start.
     
  9. A_Lonely_Road

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    Agreed. If someone hurt my child, they had better hope the law gets to them first.
     
  10. Tree-Hugger

    Tree-Hugger The Chainsaw

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    Let me tell you about a girl I know,
    Had a drink about an hour ago.
    Sitting in a corner by herself, in a bar in downtown hell.

    She heard a noise and she looked through the door.
    And saw a man shed never seen before.
    Light skin, light blue eyes, a double-chin and a plastic smile.
    Well, her eyebrow raised as he walked through the door
    And took an empty seat next to her at the bar.
    my brand new car is parked right outside. howd ya like to go for a ride?
    And she said.wait a minute I have to think.
    He said, thats fine. may I please buy you a drink
    One drink turned into 3 or 4 and they left and got into his car
    And they drove away someplace real far.

    Now babe the time has come.
    Howd ya like to have a little fun?
    And she said. if we could only please be on our way, I will not run.

    Thats when things got out of control.
    She didnt want to, he had his way.
    She said, lets go
    He said, no way!
    Come on babe its your lucky day.
    Shut your mouth, were gonna do it my way.
    Come on baby dont be afraid,
    If it wasnt for date rape Id never get laid.

    He finished up and he started the car
    He turned around and drove back to the bar.
    He said.now baby dont be sad, in my opinion you werent half-bad.
    She picked up a rock.,threw it at the car, hit him in the head, now his got a big scar.
    Come on party people wont you listen to me.
    Date rape stylie.

    The next day she went to her drawer, looked up her local attorney at law,
    Went to the phone and filed the police report and then she took the guys ass to court.
    Well, the day he stood in front of the judge he screamed, she lies that little slut!
    The judge knew that he was full of shit and he gave him 25 years
    And now his heart is filled with tears.

    That night in jail it was getting late.
    He was butt-raped by a large inmate, and he screamed.
    But the guards paid no attention to his cries.

    Thats when things got out of control.
    The moral of the date rape story, it does not pay to be drunk and horny.
    But thats the way it had to be.
    They locked him up and threw away the key.
    Well, I cant take pity on men of his kind,
    Even though he now takes it in the behind.

    Thats the way it had to be.
    They locked him up and threw away the key.
    Well, I cant take pity on men of his kind,
    Even though he now takes it in the behind.

    Date rape

    She didnt want to take it!
     
  11. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    Haha yeah that song was great... in 1992.
     
  12. I'minmyunderwear

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    i have a feeling people will hate me for this, but honestly, i think rape is an overrated crime. yes, it should be illegal and should be punished, but really, it's treated as being worse than murder, and that is bullshit. all it is is forced physical contact. honestly, if i held you down and stuck my penis in you, is that really THAT much worse than holding you down and beating you within an inch of your life? personally, i'd rather be ass-raped by a large black man than have him break into my apartment, beat me up, and steal all my things. yet, if he did that, he'd get 5 years and people would think that was fair, whereas if he had sex with someone while he was at it he deserves to die? i don't know, obviously i just don't get some things that apparently should be obvious...
     
  13. BraveSirRubin

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    That song kinda sucks.

    I pretty much agree.

    Rape isn't as terrible as murder, or as terrible as someone beating the shit out of someone else.

    It's all terrible... but rape is overrated.
     
  14. Tree-Hugger

    Tree-Hugger The Chainsaw

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    haha it's still great(only because I rarely hear it, and it causes me to chuckle) - and it was an honest random thought. go figure.


    I don't believe people should die for raping someone else. Although I do believe that child molestors should be harmed in some way. The ways I would do it are thought to be cruel and unusual.
     
  15. BraveSirRubin

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    I think that child molesters should be molested by children as punishment.

    An eye for an eye, you damn child molestors! Let the children give you the proper anal payback!
     
  16. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Prison is basically institutionalized rape anyway.
     
  17. Tree-Hugger

    Tree-Hugger The Chainsaw

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    Umm that would be like you getting molested by bird_migration.
     
  18. BraveSirRubin

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    That would be some hot punishment.
     
  19. dangermoose

    dangermoose Is a daddy

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    Yea i'd say the worst part of rape is the psycological emphasis we put on it as a society.

    At anyrate, i dont believe in the death penalty for anyone unless its out of neccesity. (i.e. lost in the jungle with a killer and no police around, or super villain that can break out of jail no problem and go on killing)
     
  20. I'minmyunderwear

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    i think we could all get down with a webcam demonstration of that
     
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