Deaf Man Stabbed For Using Sign Language

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  1. odonII

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    I think the difference is that you can enjoy a silent movie, and experience the movie with out having to hear anything.
    Sound is not a pre-requisite for the enjoyment.
    It is different to sight, true.
    To be fair, it is an intangible weakness.
    I respect that.
    It still requires help.
     
  2. DrummingJoey

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    What I am saying is simply that being deaf does not affect your ability to fight off an attacker. If you tripped a blind person, that would be assaulting a disabled person. If the man was snuck up on from behind and stabbed because he was deaf, that would be assaulting a disabled person. However the fact that he is deaf and was stabbed does not mean he could have defended himself any better if he was hearing.

    Living in a city which has one of the largest Deaf communities in the USA, I have found that deaf/HoH people generally want to be treated good or bad based on their choices, not whether or not they hear. Think about Beethoven. Do we think of him as a deaf man, or as one of the greatest musicians who ever lived? Any of you could become deaf tomorrow and your life would be altered dramatically. Would you want to be known as the guy who does whatever it is you do for your living and however you interact with other people, or would you want to be known as "the deaf guy?"
     
  3. I'minmyunderwear

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    the hearing person could have defended himself better, because he could have heard the guy coming up behind him and reacted before the knife was in his back.

    assuming a frontal assault, it's true that a deaf person could generally defend himself just as well as a non-deaf person (with a few specific exceptions i'm sure). but inability to defend oneself in a fight is not the definition of a disability anyway.

    well, i think of beethoven as a great musician who was also deaf. obviously his accomplishments outweigh his deafness in defining who he is, but again that isn't the definition of a disability. i think of stephen hawking as a physicist, but you can't try to tell me he isn't disabled.

    if i became deaf tomorrow, obviously i would want to be known for what i do more than my deafness. i wouldn't claim not to have a disability though.
     
  4. PiscesCub

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    Yes, hearing person may be able to hear and react sooner. But keep in mind, had Daniel not been using sign language, this incident would not have happened. It is unfortunate that it has occurred, and by no means his fault in any way, shape or form.

    The idea of a disability may be defined in laws, but the individual is the only one who can truly say they are disabled. If you don't think you are disabled, then you aren't. As pointed out earlier.
    Myself, I don't really consider myself disabled, but I am considered so, due to congenital partial hearing loss.
     
  5. I'minmyunderwear

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    yeah, i'm in no way trying to blame the victim in this attack. all of my posts in this thread have really been off topic, and have nothing to do with the incident in the OP.

    i can't say what your disability situation is because i don't know anything about congenital partial hearing loss and how it affects someone. i suspect the law does include some questionable "disabilities" in its list of what is legally considered a disability. i do still believe that someone with a legitimate impairment is disabled, whether they are willing to admit it or not.
     
  6. RooRshack

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    I'm pretty sure deaf people SHOULD have some understanding that they're in a somewhat special situation, and that simply existing and communicating with the world got someone to try to murder one of them.

    Not being able to hear is being disabled, as just about everyone else can hear.

    It's not to say inferior. And they should be fuckin' pissed that the simple fact that they talk with their hands got someone to try to murder one of their own.

    In effect, he got stabbed for a combination of being deaf and being seen by a stupid violent motherfucker.
     
  7. nanettetron

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    This poor man can not even sign in public without getting stabbed and
    almost dieing. What is this world coming to. How terrible. I feel very
    bad for him and my prayers are with him now and best wishes.

    I hope nothing like that happens again.:sunny:
     
  8. FlowersAreFriendly

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    That is such a horrible thing to have happend :(
     

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