little story here i live in a small soldier town called watertown n.y. and the cops around here hate anyone with long hair, dreds or someone whoom just doesnt fit in . we have been fighting to keep our kids for 4 yrs. every time we leave our house we get the childrens services shuved up our asses! they say our kids cant have dreds we cant homeschool, and the list goes on. if someone military calls the police on u u are automatically wrong..and if u call the cops looking like i do. "dreds and tattoos" u are wrong i called the cops cause some scum solider was tryin to burn my house with 4 kids in it and the cops threatened to take me to jail if i filed a complaint! sorry thing is i live about 15 mins from where abbie hoffman saved the river...for a period of time. they are ruining it ounce again. but i rember this city before the military. and the funny thing is it was a hippie town now that the military is here "ft drum" we are just scum because the military base brings in so mutch money so they support them not us the natives to northern n.y. heck we cant even go to the bar without some g.i. fighting with us and we go to jail g.i. joe goes back to post...pigs hate us here been back in this town 2 yrs now and havent seen a cop do there job yet... so all we can do is try and save some money and try and move to somewhere people like us belong.....with a long haired sherriff and a judge with dreds"does sutch a place exist"????? if not we need to create one!!!!!
got corrupt cops in your town? go to www.copwatch.com and get tips on how to bust them and bring the pigs down and give them a dose of their own medicine. its full of info on bad cops and even has a section to ask cops questions. very informative.
emm, so we need the police to protect us, and yet they seem to be a large part of the problem, hmm, very intersting lol, im not syaing we dont need police, im just saying that power corrupts and they certainly have power, i mean, i live in boudler, colorado which is a beautiful fairly hippy (getting more yuppy, sniffle) town but the police are incredibly racist againts all of my friends who are mexican, i've also confronted a police for beating up a homeless woman, and i wasn't being voilent or ne thing man, just like, hey man, whats the idea? whats she do to u? and he arrested me, fucking pigs, but umm, i think, idk, peace and love right? they'r poeple too, and we shouldnt hate them or be mad at them or idk, but we shoudl try to do something about it non violently (umm, i know its a little hypocritical, since i just called them fucking pigs, but but, the resemblence is uncanny, u have to admitt )
Something I've heard is that the police puts their own people among those who demonstrate. They start to fight the police so they have a reason to attack the peacefull demonstraters!iggy: Peace Fredrik
ha ha ... big news. dont take this badly, brave, and i dont know how things go in the US but how it works in my country, Italy: i've seen the police give free way to people carrying clubs and rods , their faces covered with balaclavas , people who later used those weapons to wreak havoc in city , all this with the police just standing by, while the riot squads merciless charged harmless people including old catholic priests with trucks, tear gas and sticks (the riot squads, NOT the priests lol). this happened at genoa and in a different way a few months ago in Rome where right-wing squadristi were left free to beat the junior students. a whole truck loaded with poles, pickaxes and steel tubes passed indisturbed and unchecked through the police lines and those daisies were distributed to the fascist thugs (dont know how to name those assholes in their thirties and forties beating children). when the elder students came en masse to wipe them out of the streets the police came out just to save the fascists from the legitimate popular reaction. this is the "Cossiga Doctrine" to destroy peaceful but unwanted protests: 1 - infiltrate a number of thugs and provokers in an otherwise peaceful movement; 2 - let them free to rally the city and harm property, eventually involving legitimate protesters and luring them into property destruction and sheer violence: there is always someone stupid enough. 3 - dont disturb them until the public starts to hate the protesters and does not care any longer about the actual reasons; 4 - when the country is shocked by the violent protest, allegedly planned by the students/protesters/unemployed etc, and calls for law and order, unleash the police against the movement. they will be free to stomp the shit out of the legitimate protesters and even kill one of two if they feel like, the public opinion will not object about that because, as said before, they have grown utterly sick of the protesters. this 'doctrine', in these exact and literal terms, has been revealed on newspapers by Francesco Cossiga, an italian politician and former prime minister, who now seems a little struck by Alzheimer so he starts telling the truth in face of the people, even embarassing things like this. he said that the present government can't really handle a protest and should learn from his old strategy, who was applied by him in the seventies. so when you see a pig at large you know what kind of beast you have to deal with.
Non taken Just meant to mention it Yeah, it's bad and it seems almost impossible to have a peacefull demonstration, we need to get more love to the system If we all had our hands behind our heads and went for the policy, if they hit us we bleed, think it could work somewhere? "The world is watching" eace: Fredrik
too bad if right then the world was watching elsewhere. it always looks elsewhere for such little things. Gandhi had success but it was against the british (i guess the mahathma's strategy would have had no luck against say, the german nazis) and they came to the point of machinegunning the crowds.
Well, we have to choose the right place at the right time But I see your point and your absolutely right, this is a twisted world with twisted ideas in it. It's incredible that they get the military/police to do so I mean they are people just like us eace: Fredrik
No need to get insulting because some ppl have had bad experiences with pigs. If you are male you eventually may be profiled yourself for no other probable cause than your appearance. If you are a black male in the US you can expect as much. And, as the OP mentioned, it used to be worse. For those who have time to read: http://home.earthlink.net/~robwrites/id11.html
there was a web site named "chase the cops" (http://cacciaallosbirro.byethost7.com/) who aimed at giving a name and a face to the pigs that go undercover during political protests (not those who chase bank robbers and narcos) by taking photographs of them while they let's say that were "working", inviting those who know them to reveal their names, addresses etc who led a troublesome life until it fell under a DNS poisoning attack and was closed while the home site of the "new italian communist party" hidden in france to avoid persecutions from the italian police was hacked by some alleged "friends of the police" which is an oxymoron, in fact it was the police itself cause every kid knows that pigs have no friends, just masters. it would be nice that once in a while some of those pigs receive a "friendly visit" in their own home.
I think there does need to be some form of protection for society and people, but law enforcement isn't it; police and other law enforcement need to be completely revamped and changed in the way they work and operate and are trained.
Just doing their job? they're cocky arrogant assholes. Since when is harassment and assault "just doing their jobs"? they're corrupt for being police; but becoming a law enforcement officer they are agreeing with the corruptness and abuse.
NEW FRONTIERS OF PIGGINESS talking about police, we have fresh news from italy, the rotting land where protesters are caught sleeping and massacred in schools by police squads that apparently were acting by their own initiative. the land where very bad ideas are born and in a fairly long arch of time end infecting the world. our crypto-fascist government , by voice of the North-Lega racist party , has approved a law which will allow to form security militias with the alibi of enforcing the law, and political parties want to create their own security corps using the public money squandered by the govt for this crazy idea. the real police is mad about the fact that they are penniless with n gear and their broken cars stay broken in lots 'cause they don't have the money to fix them and see this operation of creating and financing plitical militias as a personal offense, an affront to their role. so we have not only more cops than any other country in europe but the political squads too. some neofascist party exploited this thing and came out with uniforms so outrageously similar to nazi SS and SA uniforms ( http://it.notizie.yahoo.com/10/20090614/foto/pit-1244977213-2009-06-14-1-881360d4d707.html ) to cause protests and get menaces of death if they dare to show up in the streets with fascist symbols. wish us good luck, we are in deep shit thanks to mr. berlusca, the notorious customer of prostitutes and pushers, the man who advocates god, family and law and hires twenty prostitutes in a row, the one who changes the law at his exclusive advantage and nonetheless appearantly keeps being applauded by the masses, the lover of underage girls, the man who can make a minister out of a vulgar whore and who promises seats in parliament to his lovers, the friend of mafious leaders, the enthusiastic supporter of each single US war he can join, the man who openly claims that is unfair that the son of a worker has the same opportunities in life that the son of a lawyer has, and much more than this. they remember much like the nazis from alabama from the Blues Brothers but are fucking no fun at all. http://www.corriere.it/gallery/Cronache/vuoto.shtml?2009/06_Giugno/ronde_nere/1&2