I think many of us were recalling many (many!) previous posts of PR's complaining about the same things (driving to work, going to his pointless job, stopping to get gas, having to have 5 sec to 5 min conversations w strangers every day).... and just a general boredom and distaste the OP has discussed in many previous posts and/or threads in the past... ...and viewed this thread through those lenses.... PLUS... even IF you take the OP through the lenses that you saw it- society is not FORCING anyone to do the things that PR is saying it is... there are all kinds of jobs...for example, work for yourself. You do not HAVE to go to college... if you do go, don't go because you feel you have to- do because you like to learn and gain experiences... and PR stating that most people marry and have children because society expects them too is just wrong. Sure, I'm sure that is the case for some people... but some people get married because they meet their best friend that they love and want to spend every day with...and some people have children because they feel it is their calling in life (and other reasons that have nothing to do with "society")... if the OP sees society as forcing him to live his "boring, mundane life".... it is only because he allows it to do so... or his own interpretation of society. Most of my family members live more unconventional lives (in terms of employment/career path)...
I agree you can be happy with daily life and not really pleased about the system. That takes being able to have enough perception to view life as good with some blips rather than all blips. When all you focus on is the system or how it effects you, then you are not going to be happy with life as there is not then acceptance of what is reality. Some good and some bad. The moment you see more bad in life in general than anything else, you will start to view life through a tunnel. Some people are not happy as they choose to only see one side of a coin rather than both. Not meant as a negative in any way but I have not once found a post from PR that was not from a negative stand at the get go. We can only blame society to the extent that we buy into a live by that mode. It will have a direct correlation on outcome if going into a situation we are predisposed to negativity.
I understand what your saying, considering the source. However, I think it is a shame that society pressures us to live in a certain way, too. Especially when the way is a little bit insane. I'm a bit of a negative person in that way, so I'm probably in the same boat. Change is hard, especially when you aren't the type of person who likes to draw attention to themselves.
I do agree to a certain extent. I certainly get caught up in both the humdrum and the corruption of the "system" and it frustrates me, but I also think its possible to create your own system and your own life without regard to what society thinks you should do. It takes a lot of personal strength to do this but it can be done. This forum is a great example - I've come across a lot of amazing people on this forum who aren't living their lives exactly how society dictates it should be lived. This is one of my favorite quotes and I think it applies to the topic at hand : We have to create culture, don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe, and if you're worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else, then you are disempowered, you're giving it all away to icons, icons which are maintained by an electronic media so that you want to dress like X or have lips like Y. This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking. That is all cultural diversion, and what is real is you and your friends and your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. And we are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral. 'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.' And then you're a player, you don't want to even play in that game. You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world - Terrence Mckenna
My life feels pretty pointless right now... I have completely lost the ability to give a fuck about anything. Maybe society is wearing me down? I don't know.
The world is not valuable for what it has to offer. We give the world all the value it has for us. Life seems pointless if you have not determined to add value to it. The only commodity we have as living beings is time and when the time comes there is not a moment to spare. Regret is a poor use of what you have.
Life is objectively pointless. Unless you can find or create some purpose, you will most likely find yourself slipping into indifference or depression. As thedope said, we give the world what value it has. If you think life is shit, it will be shit. If you think life is awesome, it will be awesome. It's very easy to get stuck in destructive and depressive thought patterns, especially when you live in organized society. But as someone said, you don't have to stay. There is a huge world out there, and it's open to us all, and going out and exploring it is seriously a lot easier than you might think.
The problem CAN be with a person that never sees anything worthwhile is this='wherever you go--there you are," which in effect, references posts 51 and 52. Grab life by the pelotes and never let go or sit on the comp and grow moss on your brain.
Rat - it's okay to realize that the world is fucked and that you have absolutely no power in the grand scheme of things but to still find pleasure in that world.
Thread is a laugh, full of all those bullshit affimations along the lines of its all about attitude and confidence, just think positively and magically everything will come to you.....just click your red heels together and theres no place like home. Often delivered by those that are like you described, in a suburban prison of there own making, didnt really know what else to do, and dont know any different because of it......who are just as bored with the day to day as you are.
I wonder if I'm just another sheep or if I'm a pressed rat? I have the American dream so to speak but it just happened. Everything I have I wanted not because someone else had it. Weird, I'm happy but maybe I shouldn't be. Oh crap I have to rethink everything.
I wouldn't call 'em "bullshit affirmations." What they are is fellow hip forumers reaching out to help a guy that seems miserable on a pretty regular basis.
If one looks closely at the workings of the natural world you'll see that failure is the norm. Thats why success is so spectacular, statistically its extremely rare in nature and the universe. Once you get used to the idea that failure is something natural and stop beating yourself up over it the sooner you can get back to struggling again for success. The struggle to succeed is the only thing that gives life meaning.
yay another guy i knew is in the obituaries today...looks like cancer might have got him another reminder that my life isnt so bad