D= death

this might be a good time for all of us to start using proxies to get on this site, lay low, and not order anything for a while.

it's scary to think that i was seconds away from ordering some of that...i'm glad that no one on here got hurt.

 

I definitely think it's time to start being careful with visiting this site.

Then again, what could be proved by someone just visiting the website?

Either way, best to be safe.

 

yea...we really are walking on egg shells.

 

I don't see how me buying a legal chemical from a vendor who ate one of the other legal chemicals he had and died (and some other people who bought that other legal chemical ate it and died, despite it not being for human consumption), has any ramifications to me whatsoever.

What are they gonna do, charge me for conspiracy to murder? lol. i have nothing to do with those deaths or the trafficking of chemicals which people may or may not eat, and neither do you. There is no laying low required. this is tragic but this has absolutely no effect on the RC community.

 

really?
NO effect?

i would think it would raise some concern. not saying we here at HF need to lay low, but i think authorities might get involved somehow

it definitely can't be good for the RC community

 

Involved in what? Tell me how american law enforcement is going to get involved with a dead Danish chemical supplier, and how that will affect me, in Canada, when I've broken no law.

The only people that this will affect are the people that have died and their loved ones. You guys are trippin out over this but if you stop and take a moment to actually analyze the situation legally and from the standpoint of law enforcement you'll see that the most this could be is one little step in the eventual future criminalization of 2c-b-fly or more chemicals, and that is the WORST case scenario, and it is OUTLANDISHLY unlikely. Good luck getting your senator to criminalize something he's never heard of that ONE KID in his country tried to get high off of and died. They won't even think about this shit twice.

this is all way below the radar of everybody. This won't even make it to page 60 of any national newspaper i bet, and if it does, that'll be all it comes to.

You are all acting like this is the first bunch of people to die from RCs. It happens. How many people a day die from "street" drugs and legal drugs? Who on earth would benefit from, or have the motivation or time and energy to do anything about this whole situation? You let me know if you can think of a single person, because I cannot.

 

Writer .
Always expressing my opinion on the matter better than I can put into word.

 

Ok well we do know that this kind of thing has happened before, and nobody gets busted for buying personal amounts, there have been deaths years ago of other chemicals and mixups and such. Its sad but writer is right IN A SENSE, but quite a lot of people are dying from this tainted batch and it will eventually get some kind of media attention and definitly be banned or atleast what the chemical really is, is banned. but you should also realize that this vendor was not THAT small, he probably got TONS of orders from people all around the world every day... you are a SMALL few of MANY. UNLESS you bought huge amounts and tons of chems from him youre probably just being paranoid.

 

yeah exactly i almost always just bought his lowest amount

 

i always had the fear of mislabeled, contamed, or badly synthed chems. thats why i never ordered RCs.

 

This whole thing has really hit me hard.

I don't know the guy personally, but did exchange a few emails with him. So...it makes it more like it's a real person who died. I have been having issues with death a little lately regardless...and for this to happen...it's just tough. I just can't believe this guy is gone.
If nothing else, it has made me re-evaluate the whole idea of taking RCs.

I still haven't found anything that I really loved (I'd rather take acid/shrooms or cactus than 2ce, or 2ci or whatever anyway....and definitely like smoking weed better than CPs and JWHs....I don't consider DMT an RC since it's a plant extraction used for 1000s of years.....DPT never worked out for me well.)

So...it just seems reckless for me to do them. Why not wait until I can just get what I really want anyway. I feel like it was more of just a fun, challenging, exciting thing to find sources and try out a new powder. They really weren't helping me more than their less RC counterparts.

I know a lot of you have had a lot of great experiences and may prefer certain RCs. And, I understand the urge to experiment since I obviously have it too.

I remember when I first heard of RCs after the US sites were shut down a while ago, and I thought, "it's probably better that I didn't know about these when they were so available." But, slowly I somehow got sucked in and enjoyed the search for suppliers and the whole idea.

It could have been anyone....it could have been someone who tried 2cbfly many times an then got this bad/mislabelled batch....it could have been anyone here...or worse case of all, a friend of mine that I gave it to.

 

seems like peace grow is feeling how I am feeling. Could have been anyone on this board, esp. since we have some hard heads. Time for me to rethink my position slightly.

Love you guys and RCs though. Don't know if I can totally give it up.

 

that's true, but there really could be a media frenzy surrounding this whole ordeal...

i'd assume that most of the people who've ordered their "2c-b-fly" from this same source would have found out by now...


i'm on the same page as peacegrow though, i was SO CLOSE to ordering some of that...

 

Sounds like someone is getting paranoid to me. Mr. Writer, I just want to say something. While this group has been underground for a while, its starting to get more and more popular. Before 08 no one I talked to knew anything about it. Now there are a few people who surprise me by telling me they tried 2c-b. Right now people in western Montana know about 2c-b pretty well. Just sayin.

Will something happen to us? Probably not. Will you die in a car accident tomorrow? Probably not, but that doesn't stop us from wearing our seat belts and learning how to drive. I don't think that we should just totally throw security and safety out in the wind. Esp since this happened. Wait till the death toll reaches higher I guess? I don't know. I do know one thing though, you canadians are not scared of anything! You and magical just don't care. I would care less if it wasn't in my country either.

<3

 

Theres no doubt about it that there will be some news reports. Unless these people try to keep it on the DL. But just think about the other chemicals that were involved in deaths like 2c-t-7, same ordeal.

 

yea, they probably want to keep it on the DL now that i think about it...

if a 12 year old kid sees that he can buy drugs online written on a newspaper, he's probably going to go try to find out how...i know i would have...


...a nice RC stash is much more fulfilling than you're parents' liquor cabinet

 

true homeslice that's the only reason i have this attitude. if i was in usa i would be freaking out a little.

 

i cant believe i almost tried this at 15mg the day before i found out about the death. how CRAZY, i still think it about it. i could totally be dead right now. and good thing my friend didnt eat his either.

phew.

i still wanna know what it is before i toss it, if i decide to after i find out.

 

dude. toss that shit. if its from the same vendor why would you risk it?

 

i really doubt it's anything that is not dangerous...even if it is bromo-dfly, tcb-2, or something to that effect, it's still killed a few people...what kind of a trip would that be?



does anybody have any info on what the chemical was? was it mislabeled, or a botched synthesis or what?