Hello all, So i tried my first CWE of codiene phosphate a few night ago. I recently quit a 6mg diluadid daily habit going for about 2 weeks. It was 5 days after quitting I tried this so i suppose my tolerance went down. Here in Canada we can buy codiene OTC in the form of 8mg codiene 15mg caffiene and 325mg acetaminophen per pill. As im sure most of you know. So i placed 30 blended pills into a glass and filled with 60ml of hot to the touch water (not boiling). After mixing well i place glass in freezer in a bowl full of ice and water. My intention was to dose 200mgs of codiene since i have experiance with harder opiates so i figuired by using 240mg of codiene my loss of product would be about 40mgs. After about 30mins i take mixture out of freezer as i notice ice is forming on the outside of the glass. I filter the mixture using 3 coffee filters. At first letting it drip but then after a few mins I squeeze fliters. It doesnt seem like any of the filters ripped or broke but my water in the glass still looks very white. Where as i read it suppose to look clear. I filter again using two new filters and the solution still comes out very similiar. I proceed to drink the mixture. It tastes god-awful. But there is only a little over a shot glass of liquid so i soon just down it in one gulp. Washed down with orange juice. Still foul tasting. What i notice about the experiance is its kind of strange opiate feeling. It feels extremely heady with almost no body high. Strange. I also get very itchy for a few mins. Now my question is since my mixture was so cloudy less than milk but not clear. Was there alof of APAP in my solution? How can i do this better? or does acetaminophen make a more cloudy solution? It also kind of gave me a headache. Not sure if i will do again probably one of the more negative feeling side effect opiate.
I think that you also get the caffeine from it, so keep that in mind when deciding on dose. 30 pills would be 450mg of caffeine.
You lucky canadians! Ha. 30 pills would be almost 10,000 mg of acetaminophen. I think even with conventional filtering methods you're gonna get a lot of apap.
Yeah, I don't know how well CWEs work, but I'd be way too freaked out about the acetaminophen to try it on that scale.
I was a little worried of the APAP but i've been pretty good on my liver lately. As for the caffiene it was weird I didn't find caffeines effects were present. Just felt like a strange opiate high. I need some T3's to compare the effects. Don't think i will try this again though.
I've done plenty of CWE's on T1's as well, and my solution always comes out pretty cloudy too. But I'd be dead, or seriously ill if it wasn't getting rid of most of the APAP. I filter it through a t-shirt first to get the bulk of the APAP out, then filter through 3 coffee filters.
The safety label on my bottle for regular tylenol says do not exceed 3 grams in 24 hours. But even going a little over the limit for tylenol can be dangerous or deadly in some people. I listened to an interesting radio show about it recently. http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/505/use-only-as-directed When I did CWE back in the day I would save the chunks of leftover APAP and let it dry out and it would be a pretty hefty chunk so I always pretty confident I'd separated a lot. If I did it again I'd weight it out of curiosity.
Yeah, all the stuff that doesn't dissolve into the water is APAP and some of the binders. The rest is all caffeine and codeine, but I hate codeine - it makes me way too itchy, and I end up not being able to enjoy my high at all. Itchy would be sort of an understatement because it feels more like I'm being bit all over the body by mosquitos. Needless to say, it's unpleasant.
Im shocked you could even feel the codeine after using harder stuff. I know codeine does nothing for me anymore.