Crisis Acting In San Bernadino

Are you Experienced ? hendrix

Shall you suck the titty of the great whore who is Babylon ? marley

 

Seriously though where do I apply for a job as a crisis actor? Seems like it would pay well and there is travel involved. Sounds like a sweet gig

 

Crisis acting on Sesame Street the other day because cookie monster didnt cry enough when he lost a cookie

 

Wow, these people who are stated as killed better not be spotted by anyone who may recognize them ever again.....

 

They were smuggled out of the country on deportation buses...

 

You kook! How dare you question this horrible tragedy? Why I aughtta...

LOL

Weirdest one I heard was from Carly Fiorina during an msnbc interview...“If you listen to your reporter earlier, what he said is the ATF believes that someone purchased this gun on behalf of the police department and somehow that gun ended up in the hands of this guy, so it actually does not sound at all like this man purchased a firearm,” she said.

http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/fiorina-san-bernardino-shooters-gun-bought-for-police/148036#more-148036
( warning, conspiracy site. couldn't find the vid to paste otherwise)

 

I think the folks who shot up the party got away . It then took a couple hours for the feds to convince the Pakistani-American
couple that back in San Bernie there was a cops&perps stand-off going on : please HELP , bring GUNS . They did , drove
out of Redlands - and the cops killed them in a gruesome street ambush .

 

Here’s Why People Believe In Conspiracy Theories-time magazine

small excerpt

Conspiracy theories often crop up during times of uncertainty and fear: after terrorist strikes, financial crises, high-profile deaths and natural disasters. Past research suggests that if people feel they don’t have control over a situation, they’ll try to make sense of it and find out what happened. “The sense-making leads them to connect dots that aren’t necessarily connected in reality,” van Prooijen says.

http://time.com/3997033/conspiracy-theories/

 

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2015/12/18/the-false-flag-formula-15-ways-to-detect-a-false-flag-operation/

 

Do you think that finding good actors is hard? Because it's not. Finding people who can convincingly cry on demand? It's not hard.

What's happening here is that grief and shock produce very strange behaviors in people. I guess you should consider yourself lucky that you've never experienced either in any meaningful capacity.

I think at best you are tragically mistaken. That doesn't mean I don't think the government does bad things, and lies to us, but it also doesn't mean that every tragedy isn't just what it appears to be.

The government can do all kinds of black ops, AND at the same time there can be religious extremists who kill a bunch of people. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Pointing to a bunch of people acting strange, as though all manner of psychopathology were not RAMPANT in the human population, as proof of a conspiracy which would be flat impossible to create, is actually evidence that you have selected your conclusion first and are now engaged in an orgy of confirmation bias.

You think you're being so clever and so much smarter than the rest of us sheep but you're not even using basic critical thinking skills on your own ideas and theories.

 

What people don't seem to get about disinformation is that it's not that difficult for a conspiracy like this to have some merit. Hypothetically, if what we're seeing is even partially a lie, nearly everyone is just going to accept it as the truth without doing any real investigating. And even if someone did know the truth, they would be crushed under the weight of popular opinion, just as Pressed Rat is.

I am not condoning harassing these so-called "crisis actors" in any way. But I also don't condone shaming someone like Pressed Rat on the grounds that "he just doesn't understand the emotional severity of the situation." This dehumanizes him. And that's exactly why conspiracies work, because anyone who doesn't buy it is dehumanized automatically, by their own peers.

We take dehumanization lightly, because it rarely happens. It happens to child molesters and murderers. Most people will succumb to popular opinion before allowing themselves to be dehumanized in such a way. Most people, knowing the truth, will even believe the lie before they will allow themselves to be dehumanized. It is the worst possible thing that can happen to a person, and yet we threaten people we call our friends with it.

To be frank, I haven't seen any clear cut proof that these were crisis actors, but I do believe that such a thing as a crisis actor could easily exist and that no one would be any the wiser. Because anyone who claimed the truth would be dehumanized. It's pretty simple, really. I could get you guys to agree with practically anything if I could make you think the community would reject you if you stood your ground.

 

There doesn't need to be crisis actors. It's not beyond certain government agency's to conduct heinous acts upon innocent US citizens in the name of power and control.
Anyone who doubts that should read up on the Central Intelligence Agency’s covert operation, the MK-ULTRA program, which ran from 1953 to 1964

http://healthland.time.com/2012/03/23/the-legacy-of-the-cias-secret-lsd-experiments-on-america/
"The LSD experiments were purportedly carried out because the U.S. believed that communist Russia, North Korea and China were using the drug to brainwash captured Americans. Consequently, the CIA didn’t want to fall behind in developing and responding to this potentially useful technology.

So, incredibly, it decided to slip acid secretly to Americans — at the beach, in city bars, at restaurants.
For a decade, the CIA conducted completely uncontrolled tests in which they drugged people unknowingly, then followed and watched them without intervening. In some cases, the agency used the drug to perform interrogations, but these procedures were conducted so inconsistently that they proved equally useless in providing useful data."

 

no no no you got it all wrong....crisis actor and false flag conspiracy theorists are supposed to use operation northwoods as example...not mk ultra

 

LOL, oh yeah...that too.

 

Consider the amount of people affected by this; all the friends, family, acquaintances, and coworkers, of all the murdered and injured victims. 26 victims. All the hospital staff, police staff, media staff, and city civil staff who have directly interacted with this event. Consider that only one person in this massive web of people need to have a question and ask it of a journalist, and just one journalist needs to want to run a story that could be big.

Do you REALLY think that something of this scale could be hoaxed? And that the people doing the hoax, for them the bottleneck is finding convincing ACTORS? Like, they eventually settled on low grade actors for their massive government coverup?

Does this REALLY seem like it's what's going on?

No one is dehumanizing Pressed Rat in order to squash his theory; he is doing a fine job of tarnishing his own reputation by presenting such an unlikely interpretation of what happened at San Bernadino. No one needs to character assassinate him in order to sweep his theory under the rug; his theory is ridiculous on the face of it. So is your defense of it. It shows a complete lack of understanding of social affairs and human behavior.

Of COURSE someone watching this a thousand miles away will have to take what the media tells him as it's presented; but i'm talking about the people who are actually involved, and all the people THEY know.

I feel like you think that keeping a secret is an easy thing to do, and this would be a whopper to keep. Take a moment to consider the logistics of carrying out a fake attack like this where no one actually died. It's a herculean task, and occam is doing cartwheels in his grave.

 

LOL.
Sorry, but I feel it is considerably more dehumanizing and disrespectful to the victims of such tragedies and the families left behind to spout such asinine lunacy.


again, PR is baffling. how could someone intelligent enough to learn/know so much about diet and nutrition be such a gullible tool in so many other areas????

as bad or worse than most religious people I know.

 

I don't think, in this day and age, that any mainstream journalist would be permitted to run that story. Just like you, their editors would say it was an outrage to the families of the victims to run a story like that. Even if they did run it, the glazed eyes of the public would barely register it. So yes, I think it's possible that something on this scale could be hoaxed, and the only place you'd ever see a report is in news outlets already deemed "woo woo", as is currently happening, or from second class reporters whose reputations would then be discarded into the "woo woo" pile.

It is a rare individual who is going to come to the conclusion that a conspiracy is afoot and that they should take the huge step of putting their public reputation on the line by reporting the matter to the press (and then the press isn't going to run the story anyway.) It's not like people really pay attention to the news anyway. It's just fodder. The chances that anybody is going to see a crisis actor on the TV and put two and two together are actually very slim.

Just look at the 9/11 hijackers. It's been widely reported that some of the alleged hijackers are still alive. Does anybody give a shit?

I don't know if it seems like this is what is going on right now. I did find it highly suspicious that reporters were allowed to walk through the crime scene, the perpetrators apartment, where they just happened to film two copies of the Koran lying on their bed.

I think you're the one who doesn't understand the state of affairs in this country It's so easy to take everything you see on the media at face value and assure yourself you're being "a reasonable upstanding individual." You are simply enthralled by your own "rationality" to the point where anything more complex than what you'd prefer reality to be must be hogwash.

They know what they know, and they know that the world at large isn't interested in what they know. For all I know, they're out there right now crying about the injustice of what is going on. They could be alerting strangers on the street. And do the strangers care? No, of course not. It's in one ear and out the other. "Oh my, that's troubling," they think to themselves. Then they go home, turn on their TV sets, hear the "truth" and all is right with the world again

So again, you just attack PR's character on the grounds that his theory is lunacy You can't calmly, rationally explain why it is lunacy, which makes it self-evident that you have a horse in the race.



Sorry if I'm being totally offensive. Just a little Devil's advocate to keep the conversation going.

 

How do you know that it would be impossible? Sounds like it is you who have selected your conclusion first and are on your own confirmation bias train, and it is once again you who acts like you're a little more intelligent than the "sheep" that surround you.

I don't see why religious extremists wouldn't be intermingled with government conspiracies, anyhow. All I know is that it's glaringly obvious to more and more people that what is presented as reality is a shadow of what truly is going on. What that is is hard to say, but one must be open-minded to even the most extreme possibilities.

Fuck Occam's Razor. Using that at all times like some holy rule is ignorantly dismissing very real possibilities. Hope he enjoys his cart-wheels in his grave.

It's not even logical as a Scientist to use Occam's Razor at all times. One must explore every possibility honestly and openly.

If I were to use Occam's Razor during the last 10 seconds of the Michigan vs. Michigan State football game to determine who would win the game well then Occam would have had a fuck-up, as it was calculated that MSU had 0.2 percent chance to win the game at that point. (Fun fact, I was in Ann Arbor the day before, and EXTREMELY close to getting a ticket to go.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqv48MwEbaQ

 

LOL......the concept is so utterly and completely asinine that there is NO NEED to provide explanation why it is lunacy, it is self evident.

but, once again, cell phones, cameras, instant upload access, bla, bla, bla plus all the things Mr. Writer mentioned make it IMPOSSIBLE to pull off something like this!
What part of that are you having difficulty with?

the only conceivable way it could be done would be if the only people "in on it" were the actual shooters and the few guys who gave the orders. I guarantee you there would be no "crisis actors" only victims.

Why is it soooooo hard to believe it happened as reported?
Why MUST there always be some plot afoot?