Cream

Why did your dad hate it, Axis?

WalkTheSky, I agree with you about "Strange Brew." I love that song to bits. It was stuck in my head earlier today, as a matter of fact.

 

Well, he said that the tone of Clapton's guitar and the songs he played were crap. He didn't pay for the tickets, he was given them, so that's why he went to see him. He also likes Mark Knopfler, who was there on two occasions.I've given up trying to get into Clapton. The album 'August' was far too shit for me to fully comprehend.

I ony like 'White Room', 'Tales Of Brave Ulysses' and 'Sunshine Of Your Love'. 'NSU' is okay, but apart from that...

 

yeah, Clapton's tone nowadays is either hit or miss, he either nails it and has the perfect tone for his set, or it's completely off and the whole show is kinda lacky. i've got Clapton live at Montreux which i found his tone a little bit off.

back in his early days when he cared about what he sounded like *not saying he doesn't now, but let's face it, he's not as caring as he used to be* it would have been an AMAZING show, not just amazing. during this tour he didn't even have a pedalboard with effects and shit on it, which kinda pissed me off, cuz i'd love to hear the Clapton tone from like the early 70's, wah-pedals and all the like. but i guess you can't pick and choose what he's gunna do. it was still a great experience for me, and i had a killer time

 

When it comes right down to it, I think I would only see Eric Clapton play if there were no other good concerts going on at that time in my area. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying this as an insult against him, I am just saying that there are a lot of other people I would rather see right now. If I had to choose between seeing him or, let's say, David Gilmour play, I would choose David Gilmour without a doubt. If I lived in the 60's, however, and had the opportunity to see Cream, I would go for it. I'd still like to go to a Clapton concert at some point, I won't be shattered or anything if I never do. I can take or leave his solo work, but Cream is another story.

 

yeah, his solo work isn't my favorite, it's way TOO bluesy if you know what i mean, like he had some ok rock hits, but he mostly just went back to his blues roots.

when he was in bands like Cream, Blind Faith, Derek and the Dominos, it was still a little bluesy, but it wasn't over the top, it was more rock n roll.

if only they had time machines...

 

Yeah, I completely understand what you mean. I say we invent a time machine and attend all of the old concerts .

By the way, I am not trying to stir up old conversation, but I was reading a few pages back that you said Eric Clapton cannot play the guitar properly, Axis. I am not sure if I could ever take anything you say from this point on seriously now. Saying that there are better guitarists than Eric Clapton is one thing, but to down right bash him and say he cannot play the guitar properly is just out of line, in my opinion. Anyway, I guess I should leave it alone. You are entitled to your opinions, but I was just blown away when I read that.

 

I think its funny that people say eric clapton is overrated........ if tables were turned, and eric clapton died in 1970, and jimi hendrix was still alive, I think people would be saying how great clapton was and how overrated jimi hendrix is.......

 

because Clapton is past his prime, and so would Hendrix be if he hadn't died

Clapton had a great career until he went solo, and then it all kinda went sour IMO
he was clean and sober and wasn't making anything worthwile. that's just my view on it, you people may have different ones

he's overrated in regards to his entire legacy of music. but if you only counted his music from 1965 to 1973-ish he's not overrated at all.
it's all in the way it's viewed

 

exactly, thats my point.

 

well then, we seem to be in agreeance

 

Don't get me wrong, back in the sixties and early seventies, I think Clapton was no doubt one of the best guitarists around, but I can't stand most of his solo stuff.

Probably my favorite song Clapton has ever done.

 

Mine, too. I also love the song "Tales of Brave Ulysses." The entire "Disraeli Gears" album is beyond wonderful.

 

I'm listening to them now. I like 'White Room' and 'Tales Of Brave Ulysses', and 'Sunshine Of Your Love' is a pretty good song, but besides that, I can't seem to find anything that I really like. 'NSU' is okay, and 'Those Were The Days' is bearable, but what else? 'Crossroads' is overrated - I don't like it at all. 'Strange Brew' has an awful solo that spoils the song, and anything form 'Fresh Cream' is unlistenable (to my ears.) 'Badge' is a good song, but Jeff Healey's version blows it away. I can't stand Clapton's tone on 'Born Under A Bad Sign' or 'Deserted Cities Of The Heart'.

I don't see what all the fuss is about.

 

There is no fuss. I just get defensive over the music I adore. Axis, I disagree with your comments, but I shall let them pass without argument .

 

everyone has their personal preferences when it comes to music

and when it comes to Clapton, he spans many decades and crosses genres, so by nature we all have a different preference about his music, but i think most of us here seem to agree, that after the mid-70's Clapton was no longer god, but merely a master of the guitar with nowhere to go and a lifetime of talent used up in a few short years

 

I'm a huge Eric Clapton fan obviously... and I love him as much as SRV. In my top 5 in guitarists (not in order) would be.. Clapton, SRV, Hendrix, Frusciante, & Page. Then again you have Anastasio, and John Mayer. When I listen to Some of Clapton's best live performances would be Live in Hyde Park (1996), and Crossroads (2004). One of my favorite all time solo's from Clapton would be on "I Shot the Sheriff" from the Crossroads 2004 Festival. Clapton can be play fast when he wants to and this guitar solo proves it. Plus when he performs "Have You Ever Loved A Woman" on both performances are great. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, or view. This is just an insight that Clapton is a True Blues Player, and for anyone to say that he is not a true blues musician is just insane. You listen to his stuff, it is what it is. His best stuff is performed live, Youtube.com is a great site to see his live material. Both Live in Hyde Park, and Crossroads 2004 can be purchased on DVD.

 

I just really got into Clapton over a year and half ago. I listened to Cream years before I got into Clapton's post-Cream career. Before that I was all about SRV, Trey Anastasio, Jimi Hendrix, and Jimmy Page. Obviously this thread has become more on topic of SRV vs. Eric Clapton, than about Cream. As a guitar player for 10 years, i've gone through phases for my guitar idols. I admire Clapton and SRV equally. I just don't why you can't down with the Clapton Axis:? It's cool though man, you got your preference. I can get down with both players. Have you watched both of those dvd's that I mentioned from the post before Axis:? Anyways... I'm done for now.

 

I dig Cream.

I saw Eric Clapton a week or so ago. He played "Crossroads." It was stellar.

 

Well, I just find Clapton boring. To me, he sounds like someone who listens to the blues but doesn't understand it. He has talent, but has been eclipsed by loads of guitarists. He is okay, but I just find him really dull, especially on 'August' and 'Journeyman'. Everyone has their own opinion, though, and at least he's still doing his own thing.

I think that this is how blues should be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAxLgGVRV64

 

Texas Flood is amazing no doubt about it

it's all personal preference, some prefer his Cream years, some prefer his solo years, some prefer not to listen at all