Crap! A "Gun Control Task Force"

How is this the same at all? Each may be a choice of action, but none of it should be enjoyed. I'm talking about prevention.

 

First, it's bear arms. Bare arms? Really?

Secondly, handguns are NOT the majority of weapons. The majority of weapons are kitchen knives. Handguns (the minority in USA and Australia) are firearms;they only become weapons when used as such. I have 6 handguns, none of them are weapons. They are sporting implements.

NZ police indeed carry guns.

Perhaps some facts might better support your opinion, which I respect, and which you have a right to hold. But a rational argument is better than incorrect assertions to back up said opinion.

 

On Friday, a 14-year-old Phoenix boy shot and nearly killed an armed intruder, My Fox Phoenix reported Friday.

The unidentified boy was babysitting his three younger siblings, ages 8, 10 and 12, when a woman rang the doorbell.

The young man did not open the door because he did not recognize the woman.

According to reports, the knocking turned into banging, and the boy rushed his siblings upstairs and grabbed his father's handgun.

While at the top of the stairs, he saw an armed man break into the house through the front door.

Without hesitating, he fired at the intruder, wounding him. According to authorities, the intruder never fired a shot.

The unidentified 37-year-old man was taken to a hospital for treatment and is expected to survive, the Associated Press reported. The man's name is being withheld until he is booked into jail on counts of aggravated assault and burglary. Police say they still do not know the man's intentions.

Police are still looking for the woman, who got away.

“The police and indeed our community does not ever want to see a situation where a teenager of that age has to take a weapon to protect his family … but this young man did exactly what he should have done,” said Officer James Holmes.

“I’m not sure he gave full thought about what he had to do. He just acted.”

Members of the unidentified family were too traumatized to speak with reporters about the incident.

“The dad was pretty much out of his mind with distress, officers couldn’t even talk to him,” Officer Holmes said. “It’s going to take them a while to recover mentally.”

According to Officer Holmes, the couple took "a heck of a gamble" going after a house that sits mid-block at 4:30 in the afternoon, but said the family is lucky the young man acted so swiftly and effectively.

“As ugly as this is, and as much as this family is going through, we don’t have injured children on our hands,” he added.

According to Fox, authorities say anyone with information should contact Silent Witness at 480-WITNESS.

There are still a "lot more questions than answers" at this time, Fox reported.




http://www.examiner.com/article/14-...ots-armed-intruder-while-babysitting-siblings

 

It would prevent someone from taking out 30 lives at one time by a firearm that is legally, and therefore easier, to obtain. To clarify.

And I'll go ahead and answer the argument that I'm sure is coming from someone. Legality does make it easier to obtain. Does anyone really believe a kid like Adam Lanza would have connections to an illegal arms dealer? Or would have any clue how to go about obtaining one of these guns illegally?

You have to draw a line somewhere. I guess everyone has a different conclusion as to where the line should be drawn.

 

My family has guns. We don't hunt or kill anything with them,we go to the country and shoot cans and targets. Here's where I draw the line: I am not going to let a scumbag break into my house to humiliate,maybe torture or kill anyone in my family just because they WANT to. It happens all the time and if I have to kill someone to save my kids,grand kids or friends from some weird person that has been born with zero empathy for his fellow humans--a psychopath--then I'll take the Karma (if such exists) of stopping them in their tracks. Lubys cafeteria in Texas. McDonalds in San ysidro. the college shootings,the theater shooting,etc. And yes--Newtown needed someone with a way of stopping that creep. Not home invasions,but they could have been at least tempered ,if not stopped,by a well timed shot .It's a hell of a thing to have happen and this is what it's come down to in this society.

I still say these incidents are mostly because of the lack of mental health resources and the inability of determining just WHO will do something such as the incidents I mentioned.

 

I meant the line in defining which weapons should be legal and which should not.

Everyone seems okay with not being able to legally defend their family with a grenade.

 

OOOOOO--I never thought of that. That'd be easy,wouldn't it. Someone banging on the door? Just roll a grenade out and see what happens. Might be an answer for that other thread about missionarys coming to my door!!

 

This is very simple.

The constitution says that the right of the people to keep, and to bear, arms shall not be infringed -- TO THE END that a well regulated militia is maintained, to protect the US.

Dissolve almost the entire US army, to the point that we have tha capability to mobilize but do not have more that a few elite soldiers actually standing at arms.

Outlaw gun ownership by those not enrolled in the people's militia: like the national guard, you must train, and then be on call to defend the US whenever you own a gun. If you stop owning a gun, you can un-enroll, but while enrolled you would be subject to similar observation as while in the national guard, in that if you're obviously insane or depressed, you can't have a gun, etc. BUT generally, as long as someone is of sound mind, they should be able to say "I'm here and can serve america, let me buy guns", and buy any gun they want.

This also gets rid of the "the military can have it, so the people shold be able to" problem. Because the military will be the people.

There is no constitutional argument against this, it would be considerably more constitutional than what currently happens with guns, where there ARE bans on some sorts of guns, but where the people owning the guns does NOT support a well regulated militia that defends the US.

 

Grenades also have a chance of destroying the get-away vehicle. :2thumbsup:

 

Oh My God, "handguns are not weapons they are sporting implements" please don't talk drivel Ivory. Grow up and face reality. In Australia you are required to obtain a Weapons Licence for guns you are not required to obtain a Sporting Implements licence for guns.

 

care to see my firearms license? The word "weapon" does NOT appear on it. Your ignorance is embarassing..

 

fuck this

 

I must say, I don't know any arms dealers, but have been offered illegal weapons for sale. And though none of those are within reach anymore, I'm confident that if I wanted an illegal or grey gun, I could easily find one the same way one goes about finding pot: find people that look right, and simply ask.

Banning guns will NOT work, just like banning drugs won't work.

What we need to do is ban guns, outside of a well-regulated militia, into which anyone who will honestly be put on call to defend america can enroll. Then the right of the people to have arms is not infringed, but the arms are accounted for and regulated.

 

Sounds constitutional to me :2thumbsup:

 

just like they do with felons, we need to take gun rights away from people with mental health issues including parents with kids that are messed up in the head

 

Well if they're over the age of majority, that poses a problem for the parent.

Another simple answer is not to limit what you can buy, but require a training course for ALL owners, like a concealed carry course. You have gun safety drilled into your head, and if the instructor notices that you seem unstable, you can be removed from the course or have a temporary hold placed on your ability to buy a gun, until you recieve counseling and are given the "ok" stamp.

Additionally, how about a federal law that requires a trigger lock come in every gun box? Any time you buy a new gun, they should be obligated to provide you with a trigger locking device. Will everyone use it? no. Will it make guns cost more? yes, about a dollar-fifty. Will it potentially save lives, like those in newtown? statistically, yes, very much so.

 

no