Crack, PCP & Meth

well mainly because it's text and all he said was "pussy" therefore no context



but i assumed the sarcasm anyways, i tend to do that these days to avoid being annoyed mainly

 

totaly disagree we absolutely need more threads telling allthese 15 year old fools the dangers of hard drugs because theres toomany other 15 year old fools sayin yea go for it
even withdrugs as deadly as dutura
i've tripped thousands of times & been around psychodelics more then any of u can imagine...& even the most hard core trippers know that these things are not to be messed with except by the most experienced & even then its very risky..but fools on here think its funny to encourage kids to destroy theyre minds & lives..
we need alot more people here to educate insteafd of encourage..& threds saying dont mess withthis shit may save hundreds of lives in the long run

 

Yes people can find lots of things to fight about.
-I bet you've never seen people blaze one up (just pot, no other drugs) then turn on his friend and punch him because of who knows why, maybe a chick.
But I've seen people on alcohol do that.
Ever seen two people stoned on pot fighting at a party?
Ever seen a pothead puking his guts out in a parking lot behind a bar?
Ever seen a girl so high on pot she's nearly passed out, unable to defend herself, and guys pulling a train on her?

My friends dad was told by a doctor that if he didn't quit drinking he'd be dead in a year. His solution? He drank twice as much as was dead inside 6 months.

Alcohol is a very seductive drug. One reason is because it's so ingrained in Western culture. It's almost a given that when you to to a game, or to a bar to shoot some stick, or after a park basketball game or have a party that people drink beer.
Even on camping trips (something I myself enjoy).
So you're sitting around with friends and have a beer. That tasted good, have another. Yeah I'll have another thanks. Hey who wants to make a beer run? Pick up a couple of 12-ers. Here's $20.
My wife sure's gonna be pissed when I get home late and broke, fuck 'er.

I'd say somewhere in the range of 75% of "social drinkers" never have too much of a problem with alcohol. Maybe a DUI, maybe a fight or two.
But the other 25% or so are worse, ranging from maybe a couple of DUI's/fistfight all the way to utter ruins of human beings.

Maybe you don't have the life experience I have. Maybe you've never seen alcohol destroy a close friends life, but I have, and more than 1.

 

thats why one needs to drink alcohol responsibly

 

easy to say..very hard to do
alcahol breeds irrisponcibility
not in all ofcourse..but in far too many
just look around here at how many 15 year olds love to get drunk..not have a beer...get piss drunk
is that drinking responcibaly?

 

i guess it depends on the crowd, a few of my friends get pissed every weekend, i just get stoned with a few other. i dunno, i guess it is mainly the fact that the government concentrates so much on illegal substances, legal- and even more dangerous ones are forgotten, kinda sucks. fuck the anti-pot adds, why not show how people pass out in alleys and choke on their vommit, how girls wake up in ditches, shit like that. i dunno- i like drink occasionaly, but not to the point where one is losing conciusness...

 

exactly..i mean i drank heavily when i was young..& acted like a total idiot..but now that i dont drink i cant see what the attraction is..if i take more then 1 sip & feel even the tiniest reaction i dont like the way it feels at all..why the hell would anyone like feelin dizzy unstable & sick?
let alone drinkin till you puke & pass out...i do ike knockin over drunks at parties..its funny u can knock em clear acroos the room with 1 finger..lol

anyone who thinks alcahol doesnt make u stupid must have never heard the terms drunk idiot or drunk and stupid

common terms used every day even by drunks, yet they dont get it

 

I've seen people fight over absolutely nothing while smoking both at parties, and just out of nowhere. Absolutely Shocking, huh?

I'm sure more than enough girls get taken advantage of while high.

Your friends dad was a fuckhead.

You can switch beer and pot in your little camping / money example.

As far as people who get drunk and become violent goes, I'm sure the "actual" statistics aren't far off from those who used mary jane as their gateway to harder things. Reality is tough, the weak / stupid weed themselves out.

I'm sure we share different life experiences, judging by the bulk of your posts, you seem to lead a life shared only by scripted characters.

 

come on..your reaching & failing miserably
its common knowledge that smoking weed makes umore peaceful..
if u see someone smoking & fighting u can almost always guaratee they are drunk as well
when was the last time i was in a fight? the last time i was drunk.. since then i've smoked alot & not 1 fight in 20 years
girls getting taken advantage of while smoking that happens too much in any case but the risk while drunk or onother drugs is way way higher then weed
look upthe statistics before u speak the statistics of getting drunk & violent are very high..stoned & violent very very low except possibly where mental illness influence of alcahol or other drugs or possibly domestic violence is concerned although im possitive domestic violence is lowered in weed smoking households not like in alcaholic households were its almost a given & daily occurrance

weed does not lead to harder drugs
mixing weed
& alcahol however certainly can
however every study where only weed was used produced absolutely no tendency to lead to harder drugs

it really sounds like your rationalizing & spouting nonsence in an attempt to deffend your problems

if you were an occassional drinker like you claim, youd agree with everything we've said (because its truth) but instead youturn every argument around backwards even though it makes no sence at all
wonder what a psychologist would say about this..lol

 

lol, while I agree partly with you, there is no way the dangers of alcohol even come close to that of mj. Like stated before, you're kind of reaching.

And as far as a personal attack on ranger, if I talked about half the shit I did in real life you'd say the same thing about me. He's just way past those days and is a chilling old guy so he talks about it.

 

I'm simply saying that he seems to have said and done a lot. Not questioning his credibility, or lack thereof.

I'm not saying that alcohol is as harmless, I'm simply saying that its not the fucking devil that whatever his name was saying that it is.

 

I love to get piss drunk.

 

well face it man..your 19 ya got a hell of alotta learning to do..
me & ranger & others been there..we learned a hell of alot & learned whatto avoid
ya act like u know so much but your a kid not even old enough to be drinkin legaly..how much could u know?

maybe if u pay attention tothose who have twice your life experirence you'll learn something..hell twice? way more..i've squeezed alotta livin into a few short years ?& experienced many hings you couldnt even imagine
my parents were nearly burned to death by drunk drivers
one of the houses iwas living in was burned to the ground purposely with most of my freinds in it by drunk skinheads
i've talked to 13 year olds whos parents were alcaholics & made theyre 13 year old alcaholics too starting her drinking heavily at age 6
alcahol is evil..it truluy is..& when u grow the fuck up you'll realize it when your lying in the gutter your face covered in puke.. a knife betweeen your ribs & your only thought gee i wonder if theres any beer left in that can

 

o ok I wasn't really sure what you were getting at, now seeing that you were just saying you are "worlds apart" as far as experience goes from what I gather.

Agreed.

 

eagle: he is old enough to drink in canada, and FWIU their society is a lot less extreme than ours, probably not binging as much as americans do and so forth.

 

Right on My Man!

Wow this has been a interesting thread.

I had to say the first post by Ranger Danger was spot on.

There is an hour long special on Meth (The World's Most Dangerous Drug) being shown on the National Geographic Channel this Wednesday. Scary stuff. Only 6% ever ditch Meth - the lowest of any drug out there (even ciggies).

Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should
B!ll

 

Honestly, I don't believe most of what you say, you compete with yourself to see which one of you can tell the "hardest" story. A few pages back you were talking about all the 15 yr old hardcore alcoholics you know.. (being 39, that seems a bit awkward, but ok). You don't know anything about my experiences, If those three stories are all you have against alcohol, you're going to have to put some more creativity into your writing process..

I don't even care how old you are, the things that your typing finger produces are more of a 15 year old's creation than most of the actual 15 year olds on this board. I would expect that someone who has had all this experience that you claim to have would realize how foolish you sound. (reference: alcahol is evil..it truluy is..& when u grow the fuck up you'll realize it when your lying in the gutter your face covered in puke.. a knife betweeen your ribs & your only thought gee i wonder if theres any beer left in that can)

Saying that when someone's fighting stoned you can guarentee that they're drunk as well is so fucking stupid. You are living in your own little world. You need to face it that shit happens, just because it doesn't match your little mould for how things are doesn't change the situation. Your narrow views on things has become nearly comical.

Telling me that weed does not lead to harder drugs is showing just how little you really do know. Falling on supposed statistics for violence through alcohol vs violence through weed leads me to ask for your sources, I'd be interested to learn more of the study and how it was conducted, dickhead.

Being an occassional drinker, I know what I agree with, and trust me, it's not with you. This really must be shaking up the foundation of your beliefs. Someday, maybe you'll realize that being 40 years old doesn't give you all the knowledge on your chosen topic, and that you too have much to learn - Which is proven in this very thread. "If you were an occassional drinker, you'd agree with what I say" - Instead of agreeing with what I know to be true, yeah, of course. Occassional drinkers worldwide are agreeing with you, great enlightened one.

As it has been said, I am legal to purchase alcohol in my country, it's ok, you may not have known that countries outside of your own have different restrictions on alcoholic consumption, though after 40 years... . . Maybe not.
There's absolutely nothing that I've said that doesn't make complete sense, if you're having a difficulty keeping up with the conversation for any reason (big words, proper spelling) just say and I'll try dumbing down a bit for you. (If you could do the opposite, I'd appreciate not having to decrypt your sentences).

Oh, and you're the one who brought age into this, so don't get your typing finger worked up about it.

Also, you've claimed to be quadrapalegic, but you go around gathering up crack paraphernalia from the gardens? Mmm hmm.

 

Some time ago (1972) I consumed some magic mushrooms, either psilocybe or mushrooms from the aminita group (aminita phalloidia or aminita pantherina). Sitting on a beach on a sunny island off the British Columbia coast, I proceeded to have a direct conversation with Number One (God) for about twelve hours. I also got very sick. One message this hallucinated god sent me was that if I tried this again, I would surely die.

"Beyond the world were visions shown, forbid to those who dwell therein."
"Eerindil Saga", Lord of the Rings, Tolkien

And sure enough, I've never felt the need to try magic mushrooms again.

 

Dude, amanita phalloid is the deadliest mushroom of all. Youd eat a good specimen and start dying two days later ;p

psilocybe are cool man, they're not a 12 hour mindfuck with sickness to your stomach.

 

how doyou knjow when someones losing an argument? they attack spelling mistakes & question the credibility of theyre opponant

ok 1st off that 15 year oldd imentioned is on these boards & has posted about her drinking probs
shes also from canada by the way

yes i'm a quadriplegic yes i cleaned up my neighbourhood from drugs yes i climb fucking mountains & am a glider pilot and more so fucking what?
the day i stopped drinking & doing crazy drugs & decuded to stick to weed was the last time id been in a fight when i was drinking i'd had my head stomped by skinheads twice had bikers storm our house & tear it apart
i've seen thousands of fights over nonsense ..even best freinds fighting over nothing at parties
i've had to tackle people ..yes come right out of my chair & pin them tothe floor to keep best freinds from stabbing eachother
i've seen drunk assholes kill someone wuth a shovel because they didnt like how they parked theyre car

and i've been with 40,000 stoned people sitting in totaly peaceful sillence for hours

my research is my life..you may doubt my experience if you choose, but ithink most people here know i am always 100% honnest about myself & my experiences

& in fact several people here (on hipforums not nesacacarily this particular forum) have shared in some of my experiences


ok now you may complsain about my spelling again if u want cause i just dont care..