Crack, PCP & Meth

exactly!!!
those are 2 major signs of alcaholism
doesnt matter what your age is..ya got a problem
well it does matter somewhat since now is the best time to stop while your young..the longer you wait the harder it gets

 

smoking in no way makes ya act stupid..get real

 

Are you kidding me?

have you never done something completely stupid or said something completely retarded as shit while high?

 

dude, your a fool..alcahol is responcible for how many deaths a year?
& weed not 1

quitting alcahol requires a lifetime of treatment
weed takes a split second decision

comparing weed to alcahol will get u nowhere since 1 is deadly the other harmless 1 severely addictive the other not at all

 

umm duh we do that every day highor not
being highhads never ever made me act dumber in any way
being drunk on the other hand & you cant help but act stupid, becaise thats its primary effect

 

So now I'm a fool. I see. Allow me to continue this in your fashion then...

"dude, you're argumant is as fucked as youre spelling.

I said that it can B dangerus 2 people if they dont know how to do it responsibbly. Weed can lead ppl 2 hard drugs n making it an enabler for death but anytihng can be that way. "

Alright, I'm tired of spelling in your fashion, I truly am a fool for trying to emulate you, holy one.

You can easily become metally addicted to weed. Don't kid yourself. I'm willing to bet that most of the people on this forum couldn't just up and decide never to smoke again. (Nor do I see why they would, but hey, theres your example)

I suppose people shouldn't drive cars, look at the amount of deaths come from that every year.

 

So you do stupid things while high because you do them every day, high or not, but when you're drunk, thats why you're doing stupid things - not because you do stupid things every day. I see. FUCKED LOGIC.

The primary effect of alcohol is being relaxed.

 

1/2 of car deaths are alcahol related
my spellings bad because i'm a quadraplegic & type with 1 finger ?& type a hell of alot faster with 1 finger then you do..so yea great jab at me there..

weed does not lead to harder drugs. adictive personalities do

weed is very easy to just quite, nomatyter how mentaly addicted you think you are..because mental addiction is simply that..thinking your addicted

i smoked all day every day & yes was mentaly addicted..thought i needed it constantly..till for no reason at all i just forgot to smoke..for 6 months..& didnt even realize how long it was since i smoked till someone pointreed it out..

the real addiction with weed isnt the smoking itself its the socialinteraction , sitting with freinds passing the joint & talking
its just a reason to hang out with freinds
sure the actual smoking or being highs enjoyable, but its not anuything u need on a daily basis

 

come on give it up
yes we do dumb things high or not thats life
but when youyr drunk you do nothing but act stupid
you hit on girls whowant nothing to do withyou (or are the type that would normaly make you sick tobe near) you do stupid shit like drive drunk
you stumble around like a fool & pass out in puddles of puke
you drinktill u dont remember what the hell you did
you get into fights over a spilled drink
ya go home & beat the hell outta your kids for making too much noise

come on cant u see how much stupider alcahol makes people?

 

and the primary effect of alcaholis not being relaxed youd know that if u ever filnmed yourself drunk
do relaxed people start fights over nothing?
dothey throw things around for noreason or run face first intoa wall and knock themselves out
?
all those are drunk behavior, but not the behavior of someone relaxed

 

yea, there was some kid in my neighborhood(did'nt really know him) who overdosed on meth...fucking 16 years old, what a waste

 

yup..i'll say it again..weed is all you need

shrooms & psychodelics if you wanna go on a spiritual enlightenment journey

evrything else is poision in your life

 

Welcome to the wonderful world of alcoholism at the beautiful age of 16

 

i will admit that i have a bit of a drinking problem. it aint good, and it sure as fuck dont relax me. but whatever

 

Regardless of your condition, it shouldn't be that hard to use your typing finger to hit the right key if you're going to call someone a fool.

Weed is not very easy to quit, or quite, as you so elegantly put it. Mental addictions to some people are no less than a physical addiction to others. Enough with the slanted generalizations. What do you suppose triggers the addictive personality towards a harder drug?

Just as you said with smoking, alcohol can be consumed in the same manner, socially. Hanging out with friends, having a couple drinks and relaxing, listening to some music. Not everyone who drinks does so to get dangerously drunk and fight someone. I find it ironic that on a weed forum there's so many stereotypical views on other things.

You're reminding me of those people who preach about the evils of smoking dope.

Drinking doesn't make you want to drive a car, and not everyone who drinks will drive drunk, yes, some do and some pay the price for being a stupid fuckhead.

Not everyone who drinks will go home and beat their kids, how fucking stupid is that? "You drink, so you're going to beat your kids"

Are you going to tell me that people haven't got in fights over weed? while high? Let me utilize your style of debate here for a second. How many people, in theory do you suppose get their asses handed to them over a case of beer? Ok, how many over some marijuana? Interesting.

I know what alcohol does to me, so don't try to tell me that if I filmed myself I'd be any different than what I know. You have a pathetically narrowminded view towards this evil substance called liquor (alcahol, as you say). I can see that at 40 years old, I am not going to change your view on it and I am not trying to, but, I refuse to quietly submit to this blatant misjudgement of a potentially harmless substance, just as I would if someone was to speak of weed in the same manner.

 

hahaha yea i noticed that bout u
ya are a bit high strung alot ..i'd hate to see ya drunk

 

Well guys in response to me being an alcoholic I really don't think so. I do have a drinking problem at the age of 16 but like I said I never drink when I don't want to. I do have a bit of alcoholism in my family. My great uncle drank himself to death. Drank 5-15 drinks every day then one day he was out with my grandpa fishing and he just passed out and fell overboard (at least by the story my father has told me multiple times). My grandpa had a drinking problem and would stay out till 2-4am at least 3 times a week drinking. Both of these are from my dad's side and he doesn't have a drinking problem. He rarely drinks and when he does it's beer. My mothers side of the family has no alcohlics that I know of. I feel like if I had a serious problem it'd be affecting my school/social life and shit but it really hasnt.

 

um...not really?





but i'm not getting into this

the weed vs. alcohol argument is way too old for me

 

drugs r bad smoke weed

 

well... yeah, alcohol CAN relax you, but its far from being the primary effect... in the first place, soaringeagle said it makes you stupider... that's completely true, i dont think anyone can honestly argue that... you might FEEL more confident and therefore smarter, but theres no way you really are.

I used to drink alot more than smoke... i first drank when i was 12 or 13, first smoked when i was 15... theres no way they compare. for a couple years i was getting drunk every weekend, both friday and saturday... lately ive been cutting way back on drinking, because i noticed, and it was pointed out to me by some of my best friends that i was getting dependent on it.

i understand that your argument is that it can be acceptable in moderation. i agree with you up to a point, but at the same time theres no way its good for you, no matter how much (with the exception of red wine, but thats something else completely...).

i mean, lately i enjoy alcohol in moderation, or i at least drink less frequently (its still hard for me not to drink alot when i do drink, but im working on that) but i still say stupid things while drunk. i mean, hell, i thought i was high from eatting a huge nug, but in reality i just had 11 or 12 drinks in me and was acting like an idiot... and no, 11 or 12 drinks is NOT being responisble or drinking in moderation, im not saying it is, i only weigh 140, so thats enough to get me pretty trashed. but my point is, that no matter what, its going to make you stupid (at least while you're drunk), how stupid depends on how drunk you are, obviously.

im not really getting into the argument, but im just saying that i think it makes you stupid, and i cant see how somebody could argue that.