Covid v Freedom

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JUNE 21st Lifting of Lockdown

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  2. Not Early enough

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  3. About right

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  1. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill HipForums Supporter

    It seems that observation of this, goes to show that with co-operation and consideration, Human Rights can be maintained, and that it is not protesters that are the issue, but moreover 'aggitators'.
    One has to remember; I think, it is not the Local physical Bill that is the problem here, but the National directive of a paper 'Crime' Bill, which sees those on the frontline bare the brunt of it's unfairness.
     
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  3. WOLF ANGEL

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    Greater Manchester Police: - Non-confrotational Explanation
    GMP explain why they didn’t break up the large protest in Manchester this weekend
    Proportionate action was taken on the day, and officers engaged with those present to encourage social distancing and dispersal of attendees.
    ACC Bailey.
    “GMP will continue to make assessments of all gatherings that are felt to be unlawful and make a decision as to how best to protect the wider public from the spread of infection, our staff policing the event and those engaged in the protest.”
     
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    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill HipForums Supporter

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  6. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill HipForums Supporter

    "At the beginning of the night the mood was generally lively but not aggressive.
    There was broken glass across the road and some people had climbed on top of traffic lights but there was no police intervention. The dense crowd eventually splintered, with some moving away to carry on drinking and listen to music.-
    - The atmosphere among those who remained became more volatile.
    Riot police in full protective gear formed a barricade in front of the station, but the officers didn't engage with the protesters at all.
    They stood by as their shields and vans were daubed with graffiti - some of it profane and some of it hostile towards the police themselves and Home Secretary Priti Patel.
    - Then the atmosphere took a marked turn when the first police vehicle was set on fire. Huge plumes of black smoke rose up from Bridewell Street.
    A small number of protesters jumped on to the roof of a second police van, thumping on the glass as the officers tried to reverse.Objects were being thrown by protesters into the crowd and still the police did not move from their positions.
    - Avon and Somerset Police Federation chairman Andy Roebuck said: "This is the worst violence in Bristol for many, many years.
    "It's really unprecedented violence. Between four and six or possibly more officers are seriously injured and some have broken bones.
    "No-one had any indication it would erupt this way."
     
  7. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill HipForums Supporter

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    With total disregard to the General Public and any causes that enables Civil liberties to be allowed, This is not Protesting - this is Anarchy - IMO
    The only reaction that this will see, is tighter restrictions being imposed - so well done to those Professional aggitators for giving this Gorvernment the justification for pushing and rushing through harsher legislation
     
  8. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill HipForums Supporter

    ACAB:
    = A.C.A.B. (All Cops Are Bastards) is an acronym used as a political slogan associated with dissidents who are opposed to the police. It is typically written as a catchphrase in graffiti, tattoos or other imagery in public spaces.
    [​IMG]
     
  9. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill HipForums Supporter

    ACAB?
    Even PC Beshenivski who was shot to death as she raced to the aid of terrified staff who had just had a gun shoved in their faces during an armed robbery?
    - Murdered on her daughters 4th birthday.
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    ACAB?
    Even the one that held your relatives hand as they succumbed to injuries they sustained in an RTC?
    - Who then sat with you and your grieving family and took the brunt of your anguish and emotion to make it easier for you?
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    ACAB?
    Even the one that tackled your abusive father as he armed himself with a knife and marauded through the house trying to kill you and your family as you cowered in the locked bathroom?
    - Remember how he had managed to splinter the door just as he was tasered?
     
  10. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill HipForums Supporter

    ACAB?
    Even the one that pulled your brother from the edge of that rooftop, sectioned him and sat with him for 12 hours to ensure he got the help he needed?
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    ACAB?
    Even the one that risked his own livelihood to drive you on blue lights across the region to ensure you had one last moment with your child before they died from that stab wound?
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    ACAB?
    Even the one that stood and held you as your daughters life support machine was turned off?
    - The only one that stayed stoic and dry eyed while the entire room full of doctors, nurses and paramedics broke down, just to maintain some semblance of normality and structure for you as the rest of your world fell apart.
     
  11. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill HipForums Supporter

    ACAB?
    Even the ones that forced their way into a burning retirement village to rescue your grandparents from their beds before the fire service had even got the call?
    - Remember how that fire was purposefully started by the psychotic drug fiend placed in the same accommodation by your local council?
    ^
    ACAB?
    Even the ones that spent 3 days combing the junction with a pair of tweezers so that you wouldn’t have to see any of the fatty tissue left behind after your son and his friends crashed their quad bikes and disintegrated around the street furniture?
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    ACAB?
    Even the ones that left the safety and comfort of their homes and families to stand toe to toe with a violent, cretinous mob chanting their insidious chorus of ‘kill the bill’ and ‘fuck the police’?
     
  12. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill HipForums Supporter

    ACAB?
    Yvonne Fletcher, the Metropolitan Police officer, occurred on 17 April 1984, when she was fatally wounded by a shot fired from the Libyan embassy on St James's Square, London, by an unknown gunman whilst monitoring a demonstration
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    ACAB?
    PC Keith Fletcher, who; though unarmed, stopped a knife-wielding terrorist from entering the Palace of Westminster during the 2017 Westminster attack; he died from wounds he received in this attack
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    And for me closer to home
    ACAB?
    PC Fiona Bone & PC Nicola Hughes who attended a report of a burglary in the middle of the day, only to be greeted at the door by 32 bullets and a grenade?
    - Both murdered for going to the aid of a distressed emergency call
     
  13. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill HipForums Supporter

    Whilst it is easy to criticise the Police, and there may well be some dud apples in the barrel, the vast majority of officers,- especially at grass roots level suffer the condemnation of an frateful few, it seems that as stated previous;y this is the work of professional agitators, and anarchists, - Rebels without (but using a.nothers) cause. - IMO
     
  14. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill HipForums Supporter

    All about the timing ???
    [​IMG]
    = A question of Protest or Anarchy observed
     
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  15. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill HipForums Supporter

    I went to a vigil to light a candle for a woman who I didn’t know
    [​IMG] - (independent.co.uk)
    "I became the ‘face’ of the Sarah Everard vigil – and I’m demanding change
    I went to a vigil to light a candle for a woman who I didn’t know but I related to - and I have now become a voice for every single woman who wants to be heard"
    .
    = More like the (Maskless) face that travelled at time of National lockdown to be within a non-socially distanced crowd.
    The face of one that is uneducated (despite University attendance) in that how to bridges are be built (a cause they purport to promote).
    The facethat 'just happens' to be captured in a picture poster pose.
    The face of an agitator more concerned with the self than the true cause.
    Sarah Everard is of whom is the True face should be shown, for the purpose of change. IMO
    After the Sarah Everard vigil, I’m more determined than ever to push for change
     
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  18. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Supporters Lifetime Supporter HipForums Supporter


    Their persistence in demonstrating against oppression needs to be applauded.
     
  19. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill HipForums Supporter

    Though the manner of resistance in demonstrating against oppression needs to be measured and considered.
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2021
  20. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill HipForums Supporter

    • Unless
    A) One agrees with those hiding behind masks in a covert and not mindful manner, in order to hide their true conviction/s of aggressive anarchy
    ii) One accepts the concept that it is better to socially gather, than it is to Social distance
    iii) One acknowledges a failure of education, in the way that these 'protesters' understand that it is only through constructive communication, - and not violence, that change can be achieved
    iii) One is content that these aggressive actions are in direct disregard to those wishing to who mark with vigil events (and their message is lost in the mayhem)
    iv) One realises that this puts Public safety at risk, and once again sees NHS resources further stretched
    v) One is quite happy to see that this plays into the hands of a Government waiting for an/excuses to justify harsher public order Law

    B One believes, the ACAB mantra
     

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