Could This Work To Secure Women's Safety?

Would it be worth rolling this out for men and women not feeling safe..across the country?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37855009

 

What about men who feel unsafe on a date?
Or don't men count any more?

 

I did actually say men first old dude

 

Maybe it will help. Depends how widely it gets publicized.

 

if you bothered to actually read the linked article you would have discovered that the campaign is targeted to both sexes and signs are displayed in BOTH men and women's restrooms.

ya know, if you take the time to educate yourself BEFORE you express your opinion, you won't look the fool as often.

 

From link ....... first line .......
"A simple code-word campaign for women feeling unsafe on a date"

 

I think it is a great idea

And can we please be real...i'm not saying men never feel unsafe on dates, there are certainly some crazy women out there, and of course homosexual dates

But this is primarily a problem for women. Women are more likely to be raped, more likely to be killed, more likely to disappear off the face of the planet. Roughly 90% of missing person pictures I see are of women. So, men do matter, cut that woe is me mentality, but this just is more likely to apply to women. It simply is.

But i think it is a good idea for both genders

 

That's not going to spark off numerous false alarms, or be completely ineffective if there happens to be a member of staff in the pub called Angela..

"Hi is Angela there?"

"Do you mean Angela Angela, or just Angela?"

"Eh?"

"There's two Angela's that work here..."

 

I know someone who was drugged, escorted out of the club by the guy and a group of his mates who tried to let on she was "just drunk", punched in the face and almost bundled into a car when she screamed for help from the bouncers (she got away with the help of a passing cabbie who blocked the car from leaving and then gave her a lift outta there). She knew what was happening when in the club but was too intimidated to get the attention of staff inside.

I think this is a good idea.

 

oh, give it a rest darling.

also read the bloody thing.

 

According to UK statistics, 51 percent of missing persons are men.
Www.missingpeople.org.uk (whogoesmissing)
90 percent of photos you see are women, that's because men don't count, not because men don't disappear.

Your statement that it's primarily a problem for women just isn't true, men are ashamed and keep quiet about such stuff because of the reactions I have been getting in this thread.

You were wrong about missing persons
You are wrong about rape and domestic abuse.
When a woman hits her male partner nobody calls it domestic abuse.
When a man says no, but she proceeds, nobody calls it rape.

And yes, I have been drugged and robbed in a club by two women.
And yes, I have been raped by two different women. Iclearly said no. But men can't report this as rape.
And yes, I have been a victim of domestic abuse on numerous occasions, from slaps to boiling water thrown on me. But men Can't report this as domestic abuse.

The western laws are very one sided.
If I had made this post as a woman, I would receive sympathy and support. But I have made this post as a man so I Can only expect abuse and vilification.

 

I am sure you are able to report someone for throwing boiling water on you.
That is indeed violence, and not normal at all.

Why didn't you report it?
Did you at least report the drugging and robbing??

 

The boiling water, was from my wife and all over my back as I was lying in bed, after the hospital visit I thought about reporting it, but decided it wasn't worth losing my home and my children in the probably resulting divorce (we remained married for another 25 years but I never forgot). I did suffer the occasional slaps and thrown items hitting me throughout my married life, once I did go to the police station, but the duty Sargent told me to 'grow some' and stop being so silly..
The drugging and robbing, I didn't really know it had happened until much later when events were recreated by the friends I was with, I remembered nothing between being in the club with my friends then wandering the streets and not having my phone or wallet. The club had police protection, no good would have come from me causing them trouble.

And comparing my 'adventures' with those of my male friends, I really don't appear to have been more unlucky than my pals.
Generally as a male, you keep your mouth shut and get on with your life.

 

You should definitely have reported those incidents.

A lot of women dont report rape and domestic violence either though. It happens. I'm not really here for a gender war.

You can use th Angela thing, its okay.

 

You should definitely have reported those incidents.

A lot of women dont report rape and domestic violence either though. It happens. I'm not really here for a gender war.

You can use th Angela thing, its okay.

 

There is more men not reporting these crimes..and you should!

The era your talking about when the sergeant you reported to was less than sympathetic, was harder for women than men to report domestic violence, that is proved in books, documents etc..but I don't disbelieve you!

But domestic violence help in the Uk, is for both men and women..
The police are better trained now also...

You cannot call the police or after care in this country any more for domestic violence.. but they only know, if you report it!

 

You read a headline and instantly assumed that this scheme was being put in place solely to benefit women because "men don't matter anymore". This was without bothering to read the actual article, because if you had you would have clearly seen that the scheme is being put in place to help protect both men and women.

If you make an ignorant post, expect people to call you out on it, especially when the information proving you wrong is so readily available.

Incidentally, your use of that missingpeople statistic is potentially misleading. the number of male and female missing people in the UK is roughly equivalent. But slightly more females between the ages of 12-17 go missing, and more male adults (18+). What is not recorded is the internal statistic of how many missing people go missing voluntarily and how many are influenced by a third party. Although it is not unreasonable to assume that older people are more likely to go missing voluntarily (this view has been corroborated, albeit anecdotally, by my partner, who coincidentally volunteered for the missingpeople helpline last year) the lack of this information makes it misleading to use the statisitic to imply that men are at greater risk of kidnap. Admittedly, neither of you may have been attempting to claim either this, or the opposite, but it's worth it to be clear.

 

Aren't you mixing things up here. If that 51% consists mainly of men that were gone missing on dates or after such an encounter you would definitely have a point. If not, it frankly is another issue than how safe a person feels on a date.

 

Great post Morrow.

Brill idea - just needs to Govt to get behind it and give it the publicity it deserves to gte the word out.....

 

Some statistics

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://new.mankind.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/30-Key-Facts-Male-Victims-Mar-2016.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjd2bXB_47QAhUKM8AKHbHEDXMQFggnMAE&usg=AFQjCNF8MqU8wZzYbR67AYhDSl5_Hwz2HA