Could There Be a 'Reason' For Climate Change Denial?

Asmo Quixote

 

How dare you insult science. As if its adherents aren't the perfect benefactors of civilization. You use a computer, don't you? Therefore, they are all above reproach.

 

Needs to get it through thick head that I'm not a poster like him. My prerogative when I post here isn't anything more than to have some harmless fun. I quote passages from movies and songs on a constant basis, they have no reflection on anything but a post above me or the name of a thread itself. You're wasting your time trying to convince me I'm wrong or even trying to shed any light on whatever superior knowledge he thinks he has.

Truth Bomb: if I wanted to learn something new, I would certainly not come to HF looking for that information. 
And I know that circle jerk comment got to you but only because we both know it's so damn true. And I know you're too gutless to send me a PM trying to squash beef you intentionally start like following me into every thread trying to put everything I say down. You need to show every one your besting me don't you? You tell me off for having digs at uncircumcisedforsekin but what you do to me is on par if not even more stalkerish and blatent. And for some reason you have it in your head that I actually give a fuck too.

I've been the same person on HF for 9 years, still post the same shit in the same way, but you're a changed person. I actually used to like you a lot. You were my first friend here, someone I wanted to meet, someone I wanted to go to a gig with. Someone I looked up to like this guys pretty cool, he sees a sense of humor. But the day I bested you in an argument about history in poetry and I said i dropped a truth bomb, that shit got to you that day and you have forever changed on me. Now it just seems you'll follow me into any thread and actually read into a simple post like it was written in a gospel or something.

And I'm tired of having to wake up every night and I come on here for some fun and have to defend myself on a constant basis over this such trivial bullshit. It's tiring. I don't care. I really do not care ay. Science, technology, religion, ignorance... Who cares. Get over it or bounce bro. Or would you like me to sign off and leave?

 

I know the idea of a multiverse.. Didn't/don't know if that's what ALL scientists agree is the best explanation of why it happens..
Honesty, the sense it gives me, is that there is God. Which is totally unscientific, I know.
I don't consider myself particularly intelligent in this area.. Things need to be put in layman's terms for me, preferably in a short animation on youtube.
So, I can't say I really understand how a multiverse would be.. Does it have to mean there is another "you" somehow existing? Or the fact in this reality/universe you exist means any other yous can't exist.. Like, you've been observed. That's how I would think of it, but I have no idea.
I just like the proof that things definitely are not understood.
I don't think understanding everything is the point to life.

 

Bit of a scattered thought train there... Haha.

 

I dont understand the concept of a multiverse on a scientific basis really, like I dont know why scientists believe it could be a possibility. I've never looked into it too deeply. But in the simplest terms i believe in a multiverse, and I connect to it on a spiritual and philosophical level more than I connect with the concept of a God.

It makes sense to me, it seems as good an explanation of reality as any we've got

 

The ability to not take things seriously (even things you really care about) is an underrated and overly rare quality.

 

They don't and I'm not sure that it is even the prevailing hypothesis amongst various ideas.

 

I don't think of God as a separate entity.. All the possibilities, all of us, all life, all matter.. It's all "God". The Universe IS God.

I know you weren't really challenging me or anything.. But I wanted to clarify. God is such a weighted term. But there isn't another name for it I prefer.

 

Yeah that makes sense to me, thats how I look at it too. I just stopped using the term God to describe it because most people do define God as a being rather than a ...oneness

So now I just say hippie dippie things like oneness and "the universe" instead

 

I know a woman who calls it Source.

I'll keep trying to reclaim God. Hehe.

 

I drove behind a dump truck today for 14 or so miles. I tried to pull over on the side and let him get up far away.. Every time he hit the gas black smoke come out the stack .. so much it darkened the sky and lingered there. I considered calling the police on the asshole. Trucks not supposed to be doing that shit.. I just figured some shit was broken he stop soon. NOpe.. Fuck it ..

 

You should have tossed bananas in his pipes. The ol' banana in the tailpipe trick.

 

I don't think I've ever seen a quantum physicist talk about quantum physics and not at least suggest the multiverse, while some outright claim that's what is going on. The last guy I heard (Lawrence Krauss) said plainly, "Any time you can get rid of God, that's a good thing."

Not to make this about God. I just find it ironic that when it appears the universe is fine-tuned they propose an unprovable theory which says it's all just chance and then go about pimping it like it's the hottest new thing. But even if it were true, would it be chance, or would it be fine-tuned in the sense that life requires an infinite number of universes?

That's all moot to me, because I don't believe it. I don't believe the universe fundamentally makes sense. I think it was fine-tuned. And I'm pretty sure, however neato it may be to think that there are an infinite number of me out there (kind of narcissistic too, when you think about it,) there is really just one of me, right here right now, doing what I've always been doing, and that's it.

 

Here is a poll conducted circa 2011 of Physicists regarding what they thought was the correct interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. The Multiverse is the Everett (Many Worlds) Interpretation on here which got 18%

 

It's fine to be skeptical about some of these QM ideas and stuff like a "Theory of Everything" but I think it's asinine to think that just because scientists haven't figured everything out, or disagree about what is happening at reality at 1.6 x 10e-35 meters that we should then disregard everything else in science.

 

The solution seems really simple... Don't participate in the Science and Technology forums.

 

Yep, no worries then. You can have it all to yourselves. Enjoy your circle jerk.

 

Maybe I am wrong if I say that most scientists believe in the multiverse/anthropic principle, but I'm definitely correct in saying that it is the most widely dispersed version of quantum mechanics.

I don't reject everything in science. But I do reject their dismissal of the idea of a fine-tuned universe. Is there some reason they can't talk about a creator or a God in the same way that they talk about a multiverse, as though it's the most fascinating possibility in the world? "Just imagine! A creator fine-tuned the universe so that you and I can exist!" Yeah, I hear that from scientists all the time. *eyeroll*

I mean, it's just as much of a likelihood as anything else. Why don't they get all giddy about that like they do the multiverse? Yet, you'll never hear that possibility discussed. Fact is, with what we know about the universe, if its parameters were even slightly different, we would not be here. This is certain. So where are all of the scientists who are obsessed with the "intelligently designed universe" version of reality?

It really irks me when people make the pretense that there is no bias here, when it's self-evident that there is.

What I really don't like about the scientific establishment is that they aren't as open-minded as they make themselves out to be. There are possibilities they consider worth exploration, and other things which they consider fringe, often times for no good reason other than the prevailing prejudice at hand.

 

The multiverse is a consequence of an interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, so in that sense it's not adding Entities in the Way that the Theological Philosophies of God(s) do. Although imo the Simulation Hypothesis is essentially a Teleological Argument.