Could God have designed the Bible to only have one interpretation?

No, it is plain to see.

 

Now now, let's not get twisted up again in your effort to discredit. I never suggested anyone do anything that is not prudent. God is calling for love in all things. You don't think that lamenting over the times is a call for love?

If you haven't heard, I am currently in the hills, where are you?

 

could you fill in what you mean

 

HaHaHa. I find that very amusing. I finally posted something that thedope sees no sense in. I have heard say turn about is fair play.

The truth is up for sale. There is a very interesting thread going on abortion. Imagine how much money abortion doctors would lose if it were suddenly outlawed. Aproximately $831 million dollars is spent on abortion each year, not far from a billion dollars. http://www.abort73.com/abortion/abortion_for_profit/ That's what I mean when I say the truth is up for sale. I have a view point, and I have no desire to force that view on anyone else, I'm just pointing out the facts. Before long we will have taxes on church property, freedom of Christian speech will be inhibited to the point of executing people for speaking out against homosexuality, all church goers will need to be registered, there will be one world monetary system with one man running it, etc. The truth is up for sale.

 

As you will see below, I don't think you are senseless and I find sense in what you say, I just wanted to know what your sense was.

What is up for sale is the perception of value. I agree with you, the money changers are in the temple.

 

In the original language manuscripts there is no definite article before the word theos and so the proper translation would be the word is a god or or the word was divine. Thus agreeing with Jesus' many statements that he is God's son but never saying that he was God.

Honestly, people still argue the Earth is flat, so nothing is ever inarguable.

In a way I agree. The Bible does seem to have infinite depth of meaning but that doesn't mean that anything you want it to say is a correct interpretation of the Bible. A person can continually increase his depth of understanding but there is never a time when the basic principles of the Bible are negated by depth of meaning.

Ultimately, that is true. The more we understand of the whole Bible the better we are able to understand it's parts.

I don't see why you would think that. God wrote the Bible as a message for us to understand, not to kill us.

Why should I even try? The Bible has but one correct interpretation, no matter how many agree or disagree with it. In fact the Bible seems to indicate that the vast majority of mankind will not follow the teachings of the bible.

As thedope has pointed out the Bible is not God and so is not infinite in the same way god is infinite. The Bible is a message from God to mankind and the message is not to teach us the infinite but to teach us what we need to know to survive the coming end of this system of things.

Okay.

Actually it is easy to understand but a person needs to leave preconceived notions about what it means behind. I suggest that one leave that scripture alone for a while and look what other scriptures say about who Jesus is, then come back to it.

Why not? It is what the Bible seems to indicate.

 

I'm in the mountains.

 

That is adorable. It's all higher ground. hi freind

 

A thing is arguable if what it says and what it does are different.

No it means there is always more to learn, I agree.

A person can believe in santa claus, presented as the truth, which it is to a child, but as the child gains depth of understanding the spirit of the event comes through and there realize that although there is no santa claus his a-parent purpose was benign.

The whole defines the parts but the parts do not define the whole, no matter how you string the parts together, there is always that part, that was before the parts. In other words god extending himself, did not make him less god anywhere. You can pieces together and come to conclusion, but that is not the conclusion of your life.

You may end your participation in time before time ends, in fact that is the only way you can do it. If you wait until the end, it is too late to effect your cause. Times purpose is to allow you time to bring time to an end, that is transience, and return to god, eternal. The system is here to allow you to undo it's effects on you with the help of god.

 

Not sure why you consider living in Denver adorable but around here they consider the hills, flatland.

 

Can you please point out a reference to show me where the Bible indicates this?

 

A thing is arguable if someone want to argue it.

No? No what?

A parent should never knowingly lie to his children, it will break the trust of the child.

Some would say that God is everywhere and thus has no need of "extending" himself but in any case, we are talking about the Bible, not God.

Also if you want to get into this whole and parts thing, the whole gives the context for understanding the parts and the parts help to understand the whole.

Well sometimes your participation in time ends without any help from yourself what so ever, unless your talking about making some really bad choices.

Yes, that is why you need to understand God's message before then.

We have no way to end time, that is in God's hands a lone.

This system of things that we live in but are to be no part of, is Satan's system and it is not in any way here for our benefit.

 

You know I'm kind of getting sick of this constant focus on our differences. Someone once asked the apostle John why he always talked about loving one another and he responded "because it is enough" So what if we have different interpretations as long as we can come together to show the world that we're disciples. Isn't that what Jesus wants? A house divided upon itself can't stand.

 

Aren't we all. I can only join waterbrother or anyone else in innocence, our sins are not the same although they arrive in the same way.

Some things require much prayer and fasting.
We suspend our quest for enjoyment or comfort in order to apply ourselves to the goal of healing. We go into a leper colony, we go into an opium den, not to conquer what is there but to bring back what has been forgotten.

Jesus was very wise. He calls for equanimity in the treatment of our brothers because, although they appear in many forms, they are of one substance, and if you regard anyone's appearance to you, as substantive of him in absence of yourself, you have not recognized his substance at all.

Self can only be known by self, otherwise, it is stranger.

There are barriers that we have erected in ourselves against our appreciation and acceptance of each other, and each one involves as accusation, about yourself or about him.

 

Wanting something is not an excuse for doing it. There are times when it is legitimate to question the verity of what you see. That a thing demonstrate a condition that is claimed not to be there, is the only legitimate cause for argument.

No, I agree.

Really, that is what you get from what I said, a vacuous edict from on high.
I was told there was a santa claus and it did not disrupt my trust. what disrupted my trust was people telling me I was no good. Saying they love me one moment and telling me I was bad in the next. I have no problem whatsoever in distinguishing that fantasy beings designed to entertain or educate, are not real.
This is a wonderful time to inquire of your children?

Always exclusionary. Strengthen your faith, in the bible christians. We are talking about strengthening faith in god.

Only if you are able to put them together in a consistent picture. If you have to make exceptions, then it is not part of a whole.

How?

Remember the sabbath to keep it holy. Time exists because you think there is something to do.

This statement simply betrays your belief in deception. God gives the world to you, to do with as you will. We are the dominion in this world.

 

To end the vehemence of bickering and turn a thing into a discussion you agree to be civil, that is not take offense.

As soon as you defend yourself you are attacked.

Defenselessness, innocence, is invulnerable to attack.

This is the law of condition, it always takes two or more. Whatever any two of you shall agree on, it shall be done for you.

 

But we need an official referendum for the choice of all official attackers, which as a christian you must conform to.

 

Well, I have already pointed out to you Matthew 28:16-20, where Jesus called his disciples to him and tells them to go and make more disciples and teach them to do as Jesus had taught them to do. The word used is disciple and not apostle and so Jesus was commanding them to make more disciples that would also teach others to teach others and to keep doing this until the end comes.

Also Acts 14:21 might be of interest to you. Here it tells of Paul and Barnabas making quite a few disciples. Barnabas and Derbe were not Apostles of Jesus but only disciples and yet were making disciples. Also although Paul has been called the Apostle to the nations, he was never one of the Apostles that Jesus chose during his ministry.

As for knowing what the Bible says, I've always liked John 17:3 where it talks about taking in knowledge of God and Jesus means means everlasting life. Also Acts 17:10-11 where it calls the Beroeans more noble-minded for carefully examining the Scriptures daily to make sure what they were being taught was correct. Or perhaps you would like 1 Thessalonians 5:21 where the Bible admonishes us to make sure of all things and hold fast to what is fine.

I can show you more if you wish.

 

No, that is not what Jesus wants.

Do you really think Jesus wants us to join with those on the broad and spacious road leading off into destruction or does he want us to stay on the cramped the road leading off into life? (Matthew 7:13-14)

When Jesus says "Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.", does that really sound like an admonition for us to join with those who do not even know what God's will is, let a lone do it, so that we also can be told by Jesus to get away from me you worker of lawlessness? (Matthew 7:21-23)

There is no divided house, there are those who know God's will and do it and those that do not.

One of the major problems with those who call themselves "Christian" is that they really don't know who Jesus is. They have tried to turn Jesus into this wimpy peacenik, who is all sweetness and light. The trouble is that they over look things like Jesus over turning the tables in the temple and driving out the money changers or calling the Pharisees whitewashed graves full of dead men's bones or his telling people that they are workers of lawlessness and telling them to get away from him. Not that Jesus isn't loving and kind but he doesn't put up with those that hinder the truth, he that does not gather, scatters.

Jesus is now a reigning King and soon all the kings of the entire inhabited earth will be gathered together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty and these will battle with the Lamb, but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. And what is the result for the Kings of the Earth and their armies? And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army. And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who render worship to its image. While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulphur. But the rest were killed off with the long sword of the one seated on the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth. And all the birds were filled from the fleshy parts of them.(Revelation 16:14; 17:14; 19:19-21)

Yes, love is important and the most important display of that love is to let the entire inhabited Earth know what is about to take place and let them know what they need to do. But lying to them and telling them you will not have this destiny at all is just not helpful.

So no, I will not join with those who call themselves "Christian" but are hiding the Truth behind a facade of "all interpretations are true", "you can believe any thing you want", "the Bible is just man's opinion" and "all you need is love", while the end of this system of things draws near and people still need to be warned.

 

Nice, trying to make my defense of your attacks on me, my fault.