Could God have designed the Bible to only have one interpretation?

Why, who said?

 

OWB:

Does it mean I've survived everything then? What is it you mean Fred?! : D

No, God is still God to you Fred. Between us, it's only nothing to me.

Possibly to be proud of, given what it is I am supposed to be logical about here!

You mean an airhead, lightweight. : D No Fred, I'm saying if what you were leading to ( in anything we may share of dialogue ) were less leaden than how I have led us through it, you might be in a position to decide whether I am or not!

There is no facepalm smiley in hipforums!

Arthur Itis called it "Gods provision for sin" the other day. LOFLGOPLXNVB.

If you knew what everyone needed...but I needn't go further with that sentence.

Mighty generous of you Fred! : D

 

God is Good, Satan is Evil. Man must choose whether to serve good or evil. The first man chose to serve evil, and he was the father of all, therefore all men have chosen to serve evil. God, being perfect, cannot allow evil in His domain. Therefore in order for humans to go into God's domain, something must be done to delete the evil inherent in them. God chose to use the blood of a perfect sacrifice for this purpose.

It's in the Bible.

 

Humperdink:

Not really. We're still working out how to serve eachother for ourselves you see ( or don't, by the sound of it! : D )

I'll have to ask OWB whether this is logical or not! : D

He cannot allow imperfection, so he chose to kill perfection? Heavy.

Isn't everything in the bible for you guys? You'll never get me to fit inside it, I ain't everything! : D

 

Dejavu, you are of course in the Bible. Everyone is. John 3:16 says "whosoever". That includes everyone. The Bible is infinite.

 

That bit says:

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

It didn't say he tooketh him away again.

Look, I'm not in the bible unless I want to be, alright?

 

It does say whosoever so if you believed in what that verse says then you would be included.

Even so, the Bible usually emphasizes the word 'YOU' to include everyone who reads the Bible or perhaps even doesn't read it so you may be included in it even if you don't want to be.

There are even verses in the book of Roman's that speak of gentiles who never heard the gospel but if they follow the gospel even though never hearing of it, then they would be saved. So even if you didn't care much for the Bible and didn't really believed yet lived a life according to the gospel you'd probably be included

 

I am on the Earth regardless of whether I want to be or not. Even if I took my life, my remains would be here until the rapture. So I guess I have no choice in the matter. In the same way, that word "whosoever" includes everyone, from beginning to end of Earth. However, if you want to say that does not include you, I will leave you to your little fantasies.

God did not want His son Jesus to die. (He did not tooketh Him away.) If the Jews had changed their ways and accepted Jesus as King, He would not have had to die. The Jews killed Jesus, God didn't. But God and Jesus knew what would happen before the world was created.

 

Zeppelin:

It don't allow for no-one nohow. Were it really for everyone, it would, being a book. This is why thus sparch zarhurtstar is as its human author fred said it was, more poorfund.

 

You are included even if you don't believe, because it basically says everyone can choose to believe. Even if you don't believe now, you can. So long as you are alive, you can change your mind.

 

If it were only a book then maybe, but even so, the book speaks of the whole world throughout the past and future so even if you didn't care about the Bible or even heard of it you would still be included because that's what it says. In other words, it's not really dependent on beliefs of others, they can still be included because it speaks of the whole world.

For example, if a man 2k years ago said that he has cake for anyone who follows what he teaches and lima beans for those that don't follow what he teaches it's not depended on you or me that this man said this. The man is speaking of everyone.

 

Humper:

My fantasy is more inclusive than the bibles. It's neither good nor evil!

But you said god chose a sacrifice!

So God is an accessory? LOL! The bible gets richer with every reading! In what I'm not sure! My laughter is loooooooong though! My laughter! I wonder what everyones sounds like. : D

 

That's true.

I forgot to add that it includes everyone on earth in all time in this age.

Even if one doesn't believe the Bible still includes these ones because the context speaks of everyone.

 

Does this mean you two know where I fit into the bible? : D

Zep:

-"because that's what it says."- There's that 'logic' again! No, that it is a book at all precludes it from my future.

Sorry! I don't mean to not fit in. I just don't! You perhaps haven't understood who I am! I can't blame you. I'm still at it!

 

No, I can surmise based on how so little I know about you but only God can know exactly where everyone fits.

Like I said, it being a book doesn't matter. If it says it includes everyone then it includes everyone. If you believe the Bible was written by a barrel of monkeys doesn't prevent it from making a statement about everyone on earth. If you read any book on earth and it spoke of everyone, then it would include both you and I.

How logical is it to say that just because it's a book it doesn't contain context to point to everyone, both reader's and non-readers?

I don't even know if you do or not! I know so very little of you so I can't blame me either

 

I know this is not what you believe but I believe that God, Jesus, the Bible and Holy Spirit all indicate it.

 

Yes but also physical. (Proverbs 13:20)

Obviously Jesus had dealings with the scribes an Pharisees but did not associate with them. Likewise we can have dealings with all but we need to show discernment in who we choose for our close companions.

 

As you say, let me spell it out for you.

A person can only survive something, saying you survived nothing is meaningless and yet that is what you are arguing.

We are not talking about whether God is nothing to you or not but whether the nothing that God did to you is nothing or not.

You're the one that brought it up.

Gee, you found a typo. arty:

And where you are leading is pretty light weight, all right.

See what I mean.

Yes he did. So?

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ITTBAGAICBWAAPTICI.

 

And you talk about logic.

The simple logic is if the phrase "everybody in the world" is used then you and everybody else are included in that phrase. Whether you don't want to be included in that phrase or not, does not remove you from that phrase. And if the Bible, in the language that it uses includes you, then whether you don't want to be included or not, does not remove you from being included.

Also this, "that it is a book at all precludes it from my future", is about as illogical as it gets. Nothing about it being a book precludes it from being in your future, you might not want it to be a part of your future but even that does not necessarily preclude it from being a part of your future.

 

Zep:

If we want it to, but I don't really feel like it. Don't worry though, if I go on to write off the bible, it will be on my own terms. lol. I'm no burner of books.

Very. You wrote that what I said might be so were it not only a book, but as I pointed out, it's because it is a book that it cannot contain my future. A living prophecy is not bound by text, which is what all conscious life amounts to; its own will. To take you at your word though, it does point to everyone, and only that, not being able to speak for everyone. The word may be deed, but the deed is not needful as word.

OWB:

I thought that's what you were arguing Fred! I'm happy to survive something if you like! : D

Actually we're talking about both. Yes to the first, and yes to the second. It's typical Fred, typical that you'd suggest that nothing could do something to me. : D

I know. I think I know pretty well how well you comprehend the english language OWB! ;D

No, you did, when you found fault with my saying the bible is a manual on how to survive god. : D The fault you found has not been found by us both though. What a mystery!

It is as ridiculous as your calling it a ransom-sacrifice. As foul too.