VG It seems to me that it is you are the one spreading fear and fake news and division. The virus caused the lockdown and what is you evidence that it didn’t - what is you evidence that the science was not credible? The vast majority of people didn’t act out of fear but responsibility - the ones showing fear seems to be you and other right wingers screaming about conspiracy I and others don’t want to be the cause of suffering and death in others as many of us are not in at risk groups although even those kinds of people have become very ill with this virus and others have died. It seems to be mainly right wingers who don’t seem to care about that Are you claiming that suffering and those deaths are a hoax? But those are the very things you have promoted in many posts, I mean people have read your Brexit /nationalist post you know. It is right wingers that fight against global unity, with many of them actively promoting nationalism and xenophobia You seem to want to drive a wedge between young and old where none exists - why? It is right wing ideas and actions that cause economic hardship for the majority with policies that only serve the interests of a few. The wealth favouring tax cuts and bogus’ austerity’ programmes are just a couple of examples
Beach Where is the evidence for this theory? Again this is the spreading of fake news – are you saying that the virus doesn’t exist? Are you saying its not a virus but a left wing political trick? Again what rational evidence have you got that backs that up?
From the politics forum guidelines I enjoy the occasional conspiracy theory they can be fun or thought provoking, but they can also become repetitive, dogmatic and can become more about suppressing political debate and thought than promoting it. Therefore posts about conspiracies may find themselves being transferred to the Conspiracy Forum or deleted.
Its simple, couldnt be anymore simple, 313,000 deaths out of a population of 7.7 Billion, and it took 6 months to do it No, the Young simply didnt get a voice over the last couple months and no one noticed You really think those millions of unemployed wont resent you for it?
You not agreeing with a post doesnt make it a conspiracy theory But as I said, this time you get to pay for it directly. How exactly do you see the NHS being better funded over the next couple of years? We all still 6-18 months away from seeing the true economic cost, if not collapse, from shutting down the world for this tiniest of pandemics
And not all conspiracy theories are wrong. Some of them are dreadfully true. Dismissing them out of hand is probably why they flourish. Like most ignored problems.
On the issue of conspiracies; The Chinese ambassador was found dead in his Tel Aviv residence. There are any number of factions in Israel that would have ample reason to off this guy. At the moment his cause of death is still being guarded.
Isn't that what you want? How do you come up with this crap? Yeah, I read the article. Call me a cynic, but I am always suspicious when a government official is found dead in a foreign land. Now, if you want a real conspiracy, there was a big fire in downtown LA, yesterday, Did Covid 19 cause it? hmm.
VG What does that even mean – again are you saying the virus is a hoax? What young didn’t get a voice? All the ‘young’ people I’ve talked to that are old enough to understand the subject think the lockdown was the correct thing to do. The biggest hit to young people’s lives over the last few years has been right wing austerity cuts Only if right wing policies are followed like austerity LOL the name of the thread is coronavirus conspiracy The only reason the NHS is run down is because right wing politicians have been defunding it for years. It also got hit like all other public services by austerity – a completely unnecessary right wing policy The biggest danger to the UK economy is Brexit – another right wing policy
Panic By their very nature conspiracy theories have no factual evidence they are based on unverifiable innuendo, supposition and hearsay . If it has factual evidence of its veracity it isn’t a conspiracy theory Do you have actually verifiable evidence that the pandemic was caused by named left wingers or Jewish or Chinese people?
Fire department says 230 firefighters responded to blaze. ... more sent to put out the blaze in what was described as a factory making cannabis oil..
They said the fire was so hot that a firetruck was scorched, and that the turncoats, the yellow coats firemen wear, were burned.
I observed the same . The 'crisis' has been politically framed , devised and is managed as such . It is intended to serve The Green New Deal . The U.N. Secretary General supports this . The psyche of the people has been manipulated . The further dependence on Artificial Intelligence is intended to refine the New Social Mind . People will become more stupid than a machine .
A good distinction, we know where it originated, but whom to "blame" appears to be an international hydra of incompetence. And not for the formation of the virus, I personally think that speculation is misplaced, but for the fact that information about it became convoluted and politicized almost immediately. At this point I think it's easier to decide who not to blame. I have doubts about Bora Bora, New Caledonia and Sioux Falls. But otherwise it seems more like governments globally, down to the local level, are knee-jerking like a Devo or Talking Heads video. I'm also hearing more about the exodus of wealth from California these days. The exodus of wealth from New York appears to have been kicked off by Trump himself. They appear to be packing off for both neighboring and far flung states to escape a degree of taxation. I've seen greedy people (some of them relatives) pack off for cheaper counties. I only know a few who moved to higher tax zones, one of them has a yacht. Few seem to care about where it came from and I think most only want it to go away. Until then, flip a coin and vote either Trump or China for the next bout with reflux, to keep it simple.
Trump’s response to the covid virus has been anything but extreme...too little, too late and chaotic. Nations that embraced a shutdown early and comprehensive are now coming out the other side. The U S response is a sure fire way to drag out the pandemic and do more severe long run damage to the economy and cause thousands of lives to be lost needlessly.
An example would also be crimes. Most crimes involving more than one person are most certainly conspiracies. But until they are proven, they are just a theory that propels an investigation. It's not always fiction, it's also a way to model information. Also, hearsay is not automatically untrue.
It was extreme when he slammed the travel door on China. It was racist and xenophobic according to the media. What I find humorous though is anyone who would look to Trump for advice on medical issues. If it was president Ben Carson, maybe, but not so much on the virus front. Trump wouldn't know where to put oil in a car. A hooker maybe, but not a car.