Cooperating With The Police When You're Innocent.

I was talking to these two lawyers once. Our probate lawyer and a criminal defense attorney. And I asked them both. If you're innocent, you should talk it over with the police if you're arrested? Right? And they both told me absolutely not. Don't resist arrest. Don't be a jerk. But don't say a word to them. Don't even talk about the weather. Tell them you want to see a lawyer immediately. Make sure that's the only thing you say and that they have it on tape, so no one can deny you said that. And then relax. Wait till you see your lawyer the next day. And discuss the matter with him.

Because the "The Court TV Cradle-To-Grave Legal Survival Guide" says the police often use tricks at that point. Because they know most people will panic. Especially if that's the first time they've ever been arrested. And they tell you things like they will release you now if you cooperate. But that's bullcrap and police know it. You're arrested. There's nothing anyone can do about that now.

Also, the criminal defense attorney was very politically conservative. He was even named after Robert E. Lee. And even he told me. He said, no. I know if they arrested you, you'd probably be innocent. But you still don't cooperate with the police unless you absolutely have to. Contact your probate lawyer or me then. We'll handle it.

 

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Criminals do not wear a jacket with "Criminal" printed on the back, so police have to find them by elimination.
Assuming that you are innocent, why not help them get the bad guys behind bars. Too much emphasis on your rights immediately makes them suspicious and you can end up getting arrested, wasting both your own and their time.

Perhaps our police are different here in the UK, they do not even have a gun to shoot you.

PS.
Our daughter told me that if she emigrated to the US, she would rather clean toilets than continue her career in the police force. LOL

 

Their objective may not be to "get the bad guys behind bars", but to make an arrest as quickly and efficiently as possible; and in some cases, any arrest will do. Questions of guilt or innocence are decided in court, and none of their concern..

 

I always laugh at the stories about them falling out and shooting each other.

 

If Christina did something like that, she would be the one in court, not to mention losing her job and pension. LOL

 

Ya generally it is good to cooperate so you don't look like a sketchball. If you are nice then they will probably just let you go and not ask too many questions.

But if the police actually were arresting me for something I didn't do then there would be strong words. I'd ask them what they were arresting me for and then tell them they had the wrong person and begin to cuss them out and probably assault them.

If it was for something stupid like if a girl accused me of harrassing them when I wasn't then I would grab one of their guns and defend myself.

I guess it really depends on the accusation and how much the accusation presses against my emotional weakpoints. But I'd be happy to cause a brawl and then I would sue them after I was proven innocent in court for assaulting me.

I don't remember exactly what is was but once one my friends told me he was classified as a special type of citizen or corporation or something so that he could take out a lien or something like that against police officers badges so that basically the police officer would lose their badge if they fucked with him. Anyone know what I am talking about?

 

My father was a police officer for 32 years. He taught me to never talk to them. Lawyer up immediately. In the US they’re allowed to lie to get info out of you and are trained to manipulate you and will twist your words. Being innocent is irrelevant, keep your mouth shut.

Unfortunately most American cops don’t know Jack shit about the law or Constitutional rights.

 

I think most people at that stage would deny it all so it isn't something to be believed.

Well, that would be clever, not.

Interesting that you include mention of harassing a woman. Seems to say something more than intended.

Sorry but, I'm not even sure that you do.
I'm half-thinking you're joking but doubt the post would be so long if you were.

 

Here, they literally get away with murder

 

Every year in the US, police shoot and kill more than 1,000 people, around 30 of them innocent bystanders.
Here in the UK, we only manage about 3 and only one innocent person in the last 50 years. That was during a terrorist attack on London.

Only our armed response units carry guns, less than 2% of officers. Among them, around 75% retire without having fired a single shot other than during training.

The training is great fun, consisting of cardboard popups. If they shoot the old lady or the child, that is the end of their days carrying a gun. If they don't aim and shout freeze at the guy randomly holding a gun the same can happen. The only sheet of cardboard they have to shoot is the one where the guy has a firearm held ready to deploy.
To save the cardboard and accidents, the guns used in this exercise fire blanks.

 

I’ve watched too much Audit the Audit and such to do anything but ask for a lawyer and clam up, regardless of my guilt or innocence. To be fair, most of what I’ve seen is t necessarily “bad” cops so much as ignorant cops. When they’re trained to do things a certain way and are ignorant, better to lawyer up and get it out of your hair the right way.

 

It's easy to forget (out of ignorance, generally) how much shit cops face in doing their jobs. If you have never been called to, say, a domestic dispute, then you can't know that's a situation where just knocking on the door can get you (the cop) killed.

Sure, we could do like the UK and take the guns from the cops. The biggest supporters of that would be the dangerous criminals, as it would give them all the advantage.

Any death of a civilian must be evaluated and a way found to prevent more of them.

But if a man is, say, raping a child, then turn his head into a fucking red mist.

Unless you'd rather say, "Sorry kid. Sucks to be you!"

It's a simple calculus--if there are guns aimed at me, I'll do exactly as told. I don't want to end up dead as Desos would.

 

"too much emphasis on your rights immediately makes them suspicious." Tough shit! Citizens rights are there for a reason. Lying, overzealous cops and prosecutors have put many innocent people behind bars--some for decades!!
Of course on the other hand , slick defense lawyers have gotten guilty people off scot free.