Contraception?

Discussion in 'Dreadlocks' started by amybird, Jun 5, 2009.

  1. [B]

    [B] ¿Comprendes Mendes?

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    eeeeeeeeeeeebilllllll, eeeeeebiiiiil


    they are, everything is in a way
     
  2. Pat__

    Pat__ Banned

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    Of course they care about the money. Every business does


    and those are about the american pharmaceutical system. I could care less about the states. Canada is different
     
  3. bcmama

    bcmama Banned

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    Her point was that they care more about the money that the people they are selling meds to.
    Did you read the links she provided?
     
  4. JasonVII

    JasonVII Is Awesome

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    .... im not sure if your saying periods are sexy there but, from my perspective i dont mind them but i definetly dont think their sexy
     
  5. Spookytheferret

    Spookytheferret Member

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    i've had family members killed from doctors giving them treatment they knew wouldn't work. i guess the money is just too good to refuse...
     
  6. Pat__

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    In Canada, they don't get profits off of drugs. All health care professionals are paid by the goverment regardless of how much prescriptions they write or patients they treat. We don't have privatized health care. You're paying for the product and the skills of the trained professionals that prepare them. And in many cases, you don't even have to pay for your prescriptions. Even birth control is free for some people
     
  7. scatteredleaves

    scatteredleaves Smelly Hobo

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    pharmaceutical companies do make money off of drugs sold in canada... lol.
    in many cases, they are american companies.
    i dont really get what youre saying.
     
  8. Pat__

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    the companies do but not the pharmacists. it's not like "sell more and make more"

    Canadian health care is completely funded by the government. The workers I mean
     
  9. bcmama

    bcmama Banned

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    Of course pharmacists make more if they sell more....thats how every successful business works, the more you sell, the more you make.
    Our health care system is pretty good up here, but it is not perfect.
     
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    [B] ¿Comprendes Mendes?

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    canadian healthcare is one of the best that much is true but you cannot base an argument on all healthcare on just one country just as you cant say all pharmaceuticals are evil based on those from a corrupt system

    both arguments are invalid
     
  11. Pat__

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    I'm sorry but you are wrong on this. They get annual/semi annual contracts and that is all the money they make. You don't get commissions or anything
     
  12. Pat__

    Pat__ Banned

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    yes because our doctors dont see people as customers. Everyone gets equal treatment
     
  13. scatteredleaves

    scatteredleaves Smelly Hobo

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    and doctors and pharmacists are influenced by pharmaceutical companies and their marketing tactics.
    though imo, the problems with such companies can be most effectively resolved at the consumer level. people need to take more responsibility for their own health.

    i know how our healthcare system works, and i also know that it isnt all pure and good.
    GPs in canada are too quick to write prescriptions simply because doctors in general do not have the time or cannot be bothered to get to know patients and assess the entire situation. if they did (which is what herbalist and naturalists do: they spend a lot of time learning about your whole lifestyle), they would be able to help with preventative measures like diet and nutrition, rather than executing damage control.
     
  14. Pat__

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    I agree completely and believe you make valid points. And the idea of everyone getting equal treatment is why there is an extreme shortage of doctors in ontario. In northern ontario, if you sign a contract saying you will work up north for 10 years they will pay your entire education.That's how desperate they are. Many doctors go to the states because the money is waaaaay better there.

    That is why I am a fan of 2 tier health care systems but that idea is never approved
     
  15. scatteredleaves

    scatteredleaves Smelly Hobo

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    not to mention all the milder herbal treatments that are equally or more effective for minor ailments (and have zero side effects) that can be recommended by doctors but arent.
    i will say that the pharmacist in my hometown is great though. he has a ton of homeopathic and herbal remedies in stock and is always recommending them.
     
  16. scatteredleaves

    scatteredleaves Smelly Hobo

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    i dont know what a two tier system is...

    i have recently discovered the shortage here in ontario... god its brutal.
    in bc... well its a hell of a lot better.
     
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    2 tier is a mix of the canadian and US system. People can pay extra for health care and get guarenteed treatment (no waiting in emergency rooms) but there are still general practioneers for everyone else.

    The government fears that all doctors will go private if it was to be implemented. I have mixed feelings on it
     
  18. JasonVII

    JasonVII Is Awesome

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    i dont believe that herbal remidies are that often better, yes they can be a good substitute if you want to or cant take a drug but seriously stop seeing chemists as some evil money maker, they are there to help in any way they can, there are very few doctors out there who do it for the money. your all so negative
     
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    gretaoto Senior Member

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    Hey I didn't say anything about any specific countries pharmaceutical companies getting profits, I am saying all and any large company or corporation. I am pretty sure the COMPANIES(not the pharmacists you see in the drug store) get more money the more they sell/promote certain drugs.

    I don't care about America either, unfortunately I live here though :/
     
  20. scatteredleaves

    scatteredleaves Smelly Hobo

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    yeah. thats pretty much what i was thinking of the other day, listening to a cbc program on health care. i really like the idea of equal health care for everyone though (especially since my family and i have always been poor).
    i think there should be many more incentives like reimbursed tuition for doctors and nurses anyway.
     

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