Congress to Censor Hip Forums!!!

children do not have the same freedoms as adults. Period. This has been upheld time and time again by the supreme court(Tinker is but ONE example).

What of our most dearly held rights, kitty, are being abridged here? Children's rights to see pornography? Children's rights to talk with friends on hipforums? Children's rights to post pictures on myspace? School is for learning..NOT socializing. And i dont want to hear about how great myspace is for educational purposes. Kids dont need to find lesser known music while at school . They need to learn where America is on a map, they need to learn to add 2+2 and they need to actually read a freaking book at grade level.


As for the parenting is for parents, not governments slogan. Yep, i agree 100%. Let the parents decide if they want to allow their kids to see myspace/pornography, NOT the government. Our schools will be much better when they get back to teaching. All this social BS does NOT belong in the classroom...

 

The first thing I have to say: That sucks!
The second thing I have to say: At least they are not banning it totally.

I can understand site such as MySpace, but Hio Forums? Come on, now! Here, we learn the truth and regular people think of the world and it's affairs. I love coming here! I love reading each and every messege peope have to offer. As a 15 year old girl, getting prepared to face the uglies of the world, I want to know what it out there. I want to know what is truely out there and not the bullturds that the media and the government throws at us.

It just makes me sick!

 

Censorship should be abolished totally, no matter how is it affect children.

 

I'm quite sure if a child can find Hip Forums on the Internet that they are capable of recognizing the shape of AMERIKA on a map, i'm quite sure they can read a book, and I have no doubt they can add 2 + 2. What you fail to recognize, is that Hip Forums is an educational resource, a very important educational resource, and school/libraries may be the only place some of these children have access to a computer.

I myself am a father of 2 beautiful little girls, and I for one, would rather see this site allowed in schools/libraries. This site offers access to alot of important information that our children would otherwise not get. It's about alot more than socializing. I for one, will be allowing my daughters access to this site, at home, as soon as they are old enough to benefit.

I don't need to contribute to the mass brainwashing and media manipulation that has become commonplace in our society, I want well educated, opinionated, children to lead us into the future.

 

Y'know, I'm not the only one who thinks that while kids are in school, their focus ought to be school, and not posting forums. I also don't think that cell phones and blackberries don't belong in the classroom either, but that's just me.

I probably am being too paranoid. In many ways I think that places like hipforums are a cool place for people to interact. I'm against complete censorship, but on the other hand just because kids are being exposed to a lot at a young age doesn't mean that they're mature enough to handle it. Again, just my opinion.

well, I wouldn't take it that far but if you say so.

Um, I don't think that's what I said. What I did say was that I, personally, don't think it's appropriate for kids to be exposed to certain things at certain ages, like the sex forum. Granted, sex ed when taught properly is educational, but for me, I wouldn't let my kids run rampid online learning about sex, because in some contexts, I don't think it's appropriate.

I am very aware of that, thanks.

I agree with that partially. Parenting is for parents, and realistically there aren't enough parents who are doing their job properly.

I also believe though, in the idea that it takes a village to raise a child. We're all responsible for the wellbeing of our kids, universally. I wouldn't want to live in a 'police state' society, but at the same time I do think there ought to be some level of censorship.

To parents who are very involved in their children's lives, then kudos to them. And yes, I realize that the way that the school systems work in North America in many ways is very backwards and ought to get a more diverse perspective on life and the way the world works. I suppose I empathize with both sides, more neutral than anything, really. In many instances I'm glad that schools and teachers do step in and do the parenting that many parents either don't have time to do or couldn't be bothered to do.

 

hipforum.com isnt blocked at my school and i dont think my school work has suffered any when i got on it during my free time.

 

In my opinion, the library is public property, really the public pays for it so it belongs to everybody in the community. Therefore each individual should be allowed to decide for themselves what they wish to view and read.

As far as the schools teaching kids, huh! the only thing they are teaching them is how to go out and work in a crocked system of capitalism. If It were up to me I would dismantel big buisness and plant trees and everybody could live free off the land and enjoy true freedom and piece of mind. Instead of living in this corrupted corporate world that does nothing but poison our minds and our earth but of course we seem to have no choice as it is. I just had to get this out.

I will make it very clear though that I personally dont belive in kids viewing or getting involved in porn, Im against that in every sence!

 

It shouldn't be up to the government to decide for us what we should view. They use censorship as a means to control other peoples lives, Im against that. Now Im all for protecting kids from preditors, but restricting a persons right to view what we want, or say is not the way to go and is against article 19, Like some others have said it's up to the parents to educate there young ones on matters.

One thing about my town that I do like is instead of restricting certain sites on the internet from everyone, they have computers for adults and computers for kids. The adult computers you can bring up anything you want, people have to be of a certain age to use these. They always have a superviser in the room too, and each individual has to check in with that person before getting on a machine.

I dont have to worry about this anyway as I have my own computer at home :sunglasse

 

If something is PUBLIC property, then why not allow the public to view what they want to see?

 

I agree :sunglasse

 

We dont care about kids' "protection". In these cases, freedom is above all, even if it harms kids it's still ok, b/c it's freedom.
Hail Libertarians!

 

I think it's quite possible to have freedom without harming kids.

 

That's right kitty

I believe taking away more freedom does more harm...

I mean, i'm 16 now, and this censorshio will most likely effect my school aswell,
but damn, is it harmfull for a kid to see a naked girl/guy?
Even if I was 13 or something, I wouldnt die from seeing 18+ material, what exactly is harmfull about seeing 18+ material?
I dont quite understand what's the problem...
I do understand that looking at it in school is inapropriate, but to block entire sites for it because you MIGHT see a 18+ pic or parts of a conversation? Give me a break.

 

the debate isn't whether or not you're going to die, it's whether or not kids at any age have the maturity to understand and deal with it.

 

What a strange discussion here. Porn at hipforums, you're joking. When will the US-Congress beginn to spare us, the rest of the world from all the lot of real porn, which comes from the US, the biggest porn-provider worldwide.


Pornography Industry Revenue Statistics

Size of the industry $57.0 billion world-wide - $12.0 billion US
Adult videos $20 billion
Escort services $11 billion
Magazines $7.5 billion
Sex clubs $5 billion
Phone sex $4.5 billion
Cable/Pay per view $2.5 billion
Internet $2.5 billion
CD-Rom $1.5 billion
Novelties $1.0 billion
Other $1.5 billion
Porn revenue is larger than all combined revenues of all professional football, baseball and basketball franchises.
US porn revenue exceeds the combined revenues of ABC, CBS, and NBC (6.2 billion)
Child pornography generates $3 billion annually



Internet Pornography Statistics

Pornographic websites 4.2 million (12% of total websites)
Pornographic pages 372 million
Daily pornographic search engine requests 68 million (25% of total search engine requests)
Daily pornographic emails 2.5 billion (8% of total emails)
Average daily pornographic emails/user 4.5 per Internet user
Monthly Pornographic downloads (Peer-to-peer) 1.5 billion (35% of all downloads)
Daily Gnutella "child pornography" requests 116 thousand
Websites offering illegal child pornography 100 thousand
Sexual solicitations of youth made in chat rooms 89%
Youths who received sexual solicitation 20%
Worldwide visitors to pornographic web sites 72 million annually



Children Internet Pornography Statistics

Average age of first Internet exposure to pornography 11 years old
Largest consumer of Internet pornography 12 - 17 age group
15-17 year olds having multiple hard-core exposures 80%
8-16 year olds having viewed porn online 90% (most while doing homework)
7-17 year olds who would freely give out home address 29%
7-17 year olds who would freely give out email address 14%
Childrens' character names linked to thousands of porn links 26 (Including Pokeman and Action Man)



Adult Internet Pornography Statistics

Men admitting to accessing pornography at work 20%
US adults who regularly visit Internet pornography websites 40 million
Promise Keeper men who viewed pornography in last week 53%
Christians who said pornography is a major problem in the home 47%
Adults admitting to Internet sexual addiction 10%
Breakdown of male/female visitors to pornography sites 72% male - 28% female



Women and Pornography

70% of women keep their cyber activities secret.
17% of all women struggle with pornography addiction.
Women, far more than men, are likely to act out their behaviors in real life, such as having multiple partners, casual sex, or affairs.
Women favor chat rooms 2X more than men.
1 of 3 visitors to all adult web sites are women.
9.4 million women access adult web sites each month.
Women admitting to accessing pornography at work 13%


Source: Internet Pornography Statistics

 

Absolutly insane. That is all I have to say about that. America "Home of the Free, Land of the Brave". Hold on that means whenever I go to school next year in 8th grade I wont be able to come on here there? Man what a crock-load of crap that is. But you can still get on here from home right? Man I hope cause that wouldn't be right they would be taking away freedom of speech......fascist pigs I say!

 

Yes

Facsist pigs is a little extreme don't you think ?.