Congress to Censor Hip Forums!!!

It is very right. In history although church had censorship, but the main perpetrator is the secular authority. The saintly Church cannot done such an outrage because they know God would punish them if they did. The government secular officials dont believe in God and want to control others with their power greed.

 

Steffan,

Who else? I've never seen it attributed to anyone but Gandhi...

http://en.thinkexist.com/quotation/be_the_change_you_want_to_see_in_the_world/148490.html
http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/27184.html
http://www.newconnexion.net/article/05-99/be-chang.html
http://www.afl.iofc.org/
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/mohandasga109075.html

 

Show me some FACTS, not what you "think". At least a detailed thesis which aligns with your perspective. I'm not prone to accepting anything at face value, i'm not saying that I am right and You/Steffan are wrong, I just want to see some thought provoking facts, not personal rhetoric. All of the qoutes you listed can be interpreted in a number of ways, you can devise just about any meaning out of anything, depending on the reader. Your illustration in no way shows one single fact, just conjecture.

 

wtf??? Where did Harmodius' post go?

 

I belive you that the main perpetraitor is secular authority. Satan is influencing the governments today, I remember reading in the bible where it has stated that the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one Satan the devil.

Alot of the government officials as well as many out in general population are being led by Satans influence, It does clearly show.:sunglasse

 

Okay..........where the fuck did Harmodius' post go?? It disappeared a couple minutes after it was posted. Am I losing it?? WTF??

 

Maybe he was permantly banned? That's when posts usually dissapear.

 

Yeah... they must feel like they have to do something since so many teachers are also having sex with students.
It's all bullshit and control.

 

Yeah... but that's pretty much a Christian thing since to believe in the devil one would have to believe in Christianity and the Bible.
Before the bible there was no Satan.
It's how the Church killed and burnt over 12 Million Pagans in the name of Christ.
It was easier to say that the pagans Horned God was Satan and that from point on Satan has been pictured as The Horned God etc.
It was also how the Church stole all of the associated Land and wealth from the same population.

So that would mean that all of our Government officials are Christians which I sure hope that didn't happen yet!
But I am sure they are all working on it.

 

We will just have to wait and see what happens in the future. I do belive though in God and Jesus and a life after the one im living but thats my personal belief. Man made governments will never get the job done. I am waiting for the day when god will, and I repeat will demolish this wicked system of things that we are living in now and bring about his new perfect order where there will be no more death, no more pain and no more violence, trust me it will happen and Amen when it does because Satan I truley want nothing to do with. My God can heal and restore me and Satan will lose in the last days. My God can heal me of everything satan has done to me and anybody who believes and Amen when that happens. Sorry to ramble now back on the subject of censorship.:sunglasse

 

Ouch, You live in a huge illusion mate...

Goverments are made up by man,
are we not able to have them removed again...
Same goes for boundary's.
Once upon a time, there were no country's, you had the earth.
Look at it now... you have the earth seperated in hundred pieces, which nobody is willing to share.

 

Governments are made up of imperfect humans, the bible clearly states that man will dominate man to his injury. It also states that it does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step. You see when this wicked world comes to an end God will setup a perfect world where there will be no more death and pain, he will restore perfection in his people, right now there are no perfect people on this earth and without perfect people you will never have a government or anything thats going to truely work right. When the new world come's into play there will be everlasting life on a paradise earth and all perfection restored, IF you are wondering where I get my teaching from, it's the Bible Students mostly. Im not so much with mainstream christianity I just take in what makes scence to me and what feels right, I follow my concience.

I can only tell people what I know, I can't make them believe. What others believe is obviously there decission, but nobody on earth will change me in this regard, I am not perfect, nobody is, but I do believe strongly in What Im saying.:sunglasse

 

Yeah but, have you seen how much garbage the bible also states?
I cant take that little book serious

You will never have a perfect goverment,
if it is a perfect world because god would be in charge, then we would have a dictatorship all over the world, still no true freedom.
That's what I believe about that part...

Peace!

 

Hello Liroy, it's good too hear from you again. I just see it in the sence that God created me so he is the only one who has the right to tell me how I should live, thats just my personal belief though. Im not out too judge you or anybody else though for that matter, we all have different opinions. Even though we dont see eye to eye on this issue, you do seem like a nice person, it's cool to talk with someone who can debate on a mature level. I wish you the best of luck in your future. Peace back to you.:sunglasse

 

Sorry Skip, I saw it was floating off, I have heard the other day on the avn site that congress is trying to pass another bill that will put extream limits on pornography. One step closer to another freedom for those that like it taken away. It called the H.R. 5528 Pornography Jurisdiction limitation act. The way it is setup nobody will be able to fight it in court either as the courts will have no say. Anybody else hear of this?

 

No I havnt, but the idea sounds bad

 

Yes Liroy, another freedom starting to go right out the door. censorship seems to be running wild in this country.

 

And that, is only the beginning
In a few years, nothing is allowed anymore.

 

If they ever do outlaw pornagraphy all together, it will just go underground and it will be made and sold just like drugs. Then they will have a full out war on porn and if they think the prisons are overcrowded now oh boy. The tax payers will be forking out one hell of a bill for all the people that are caught with porn and thrown in prison. Then the tax payers will be paying for more agents to handle it, they will be paying to build and upkeep extra prison space, they will be paying to keep those extra prisoners, feed them, cloth them, medical. The whole works. I hope it never comes to a complete outlaw of it but if it does there is going to be a huge mess.

You also have the repression people would feel, and that would probably cause more outrage and violence.

Then you figure too the damage it will do to the economy from not being able to sell it, more buisnesses closing, less taxes comming in and alot more people out of jobs. I mean it could do far stretched out damage as many people are into it, more I think than what they realize.

Now I am against child porn, I am for protecting kids from it through education and taking out child porn on the net and elsewhere but adult porn should be a choice for willing adults.

All in all though censorship does so much damage in so many ways.