Conclusive Report on 9/11 Incident From the U.K.

That's true, but given what is known about "Official-liners," he'll probably search the web high and low to find an instance in which there was indeed thunder on a clear, cloudless day. Then he'll go back to calling me a conspiratard, or worse.

 

Who cares what he says.... HE'S ONE OF THE BRAINWASHED ONES WHO ONLY LISTEN TO MSM!!

 

I keep thinking this has got to be a joke, that you guys can't possibly be this fucking stupid. Orbs and controlled demolitions? Seriously? Get professional help, you're all as crazy as shit house rats!

Here's one of your own stupid ass conspiratard videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvyBY8d554I"]NEW PROOF BOMBS WERE SET IN THE TWIN TOWERS - YouTube

At 1:07 it shows a relatively small building with dozens of controlled explosions throughout the total height of the building 2 seconds before it collapses over the whole height of the building.

At 1:21 it compares real detonations with one, count them, ONE, window blowout in the WTC with higher floor collapse ALREADY in progress!

The hanging floors are collapsing inside and the air needs to get out so some windows are blown out on the way down as they collapse. Do you not see how this differs from a real controlled demolition? Where is your common sense at? WTC7 window blowouts are in a stairway column with common air pressure and simultaneous blowout as it collapsed. Again, if it was a demolition, the blowouts are a couple seconds BEFORE any collapse occurs! The end is just faked to sound like an explosion when it was really a collapse in progress.

Seriously? Seriously? Get a fucking grip on reality.
There are TRUE skeptics that use critical thinking and common sense.
Then there are morons who can't even see the obvious!

 

Your first mistake was ignoring the testimonies of firefighters, police, paramedics, and eyewitnesses who reported seeing and hearing the sounds of controlled demolition activity, and the 9/11 Commission's refusal to consider these testimonies before coming to their conclusions.

Your second mistake was refusing to see that all three towers came down in a near free-fall manner, indicating that their core structures had been neutralized.

Your third mistake was ignoring the proven fact that the core columns were not subjected to the kind of heat necessary to weaken them.

Your fourth mistake was believing that, because you are unfiamiliar with the method used to neutralize the core structures of all three towers, they were not neutralized. Obviously they were neutralized, or they would have halted the collapse, or at the very, very, very least, slowed it down. But not even one of the three towers was slowed down in any way.

Your continued inabiliity to recognize all of the "red flags" is astounding; almost as astounding as the near free-fall collapse of the WTC towers!

Are you familiar with Niels Harrit?

 

Here is a representation of the core structure of a WTC tower:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ11i6fi7KQ"]WTC Core - YouTube

 

9/11 Commission says "fuck you" to the eyewitnesses. What good are eye/ear witnesses? Right?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwQa5eokieY"]9/11 Commission Report bars 503 1st responder eyewitnesses - YouTube

 

You mean like you who is living in denial??

Did you even watch the link i posted?? IF NOT,you have no right saying things like this.....

Pure ignorance.......

 

People are idiots; they lie, embellish, have subjective memorys. We heve many VIDEOS of the whole COLLAPSE. Their STORIES do not collaborate with actual factual evidence!

BULLSHIT! Videos show, even the "WTC Core" video you posted shows the core fell slightly AFTER the floors. Even the core could not survive the power of 100+ acres of falling trusses and concrete!

Bullshit! You guys haven't posted a single fucking fact about anything! fake videos and misinformation!

Neutralize the core my black ass! Have a good look at your WTC core video at 7:58. See all that black melted steel? that's from workers torch cutting the steel to clear the rubble. Demolition shape charge cuts look nothing like that!

You got nothing but fucking BULLSHIT!!
I don't know why I'm even wasting my time responding to this fucking IDIOCY!!!!
Fucking morons piss me off!!!

 

Relaxxx,

So, now the first responders are idiots, liars, and generally have memories that simply can't be trusted? And you accused me of being a sad, fucking disgrace and disservice to the victims of this attack?

And talk about embellishment, what about your claim that "even the core could not survive the power of 100+ acres of falling trusses and concrete!" That's an odd thing to say when that is what they were designed to support. And could you explain how the seventy-eighth floor was subjected to the weight of the whole tower? Was that a lie, an embellishment, or the calculations of an idiot? I won't mention the law of the conservation of momentum. I don't think you'll be interested.

Wow! I don't recall saying anything about workers' torches not cutting the steel to clear the rubble. Maybe there is something to your idea that people are idiots, and that they lie, and that they embellish, and that they have subjective memories.

If I have nothing but "fucking bullshit," then why do you waste your time responding to this fucking idiocy? And why the uncontrollable hostility? It's almost as if your life depended on the official line being true.

 

Its interesting how he IGNORES MY QUESTION ABOUT THE VIDEO I POSTED! (Because he doesnt wanna admit what he hears! -- BOMBS going off in the base of the towers right before they fall)

 

what matters isn't how the buildings were knocked down. i have no problem with the idea that airplanes might have done it, for towers one and two. nor that a self destruct mechanism was build into building seven, to protect the secrecy of documents stored there.

what matters is who actually planed the attacks and what motivated them to do so. and that is where i refuse to believe what we are so obviously being fed.

sure the guys who comandeered the plaines were ben lauden's outfit. but i still see no reason, no real contrary evidance, to deny they were subcontractors hired by political and economic interests, those of the so called political right, right here in the dear old u.s. of a.

and the finger of suspicion still points at the troika of rumsfield, rove, and cheney.

 

Well, you seem to understand enough to know that, in this case, belonging to the Church of Conspiracy is preferable to being a member of the Church of Coincidence.

 

IMHO, there are 3 possible scenarios on what happened on 9/11.

1) It is what it is. 19 guys hijack 4 airplanes and fly 3 of them into buildings. Wandering around, "bogies" once the transponders were turned off, for almost 2 hours (from time transponders off until last plane hit the pentagon). Unchallenged and one plant penetrates what is supposed to be the most secure airspace in the world and hits the center of our military command. If this one is true, it assumes a higher degree of competence in flying by the hijackers than was thought possible. The plane that hit the pentagon was brought in at high speeds, nap of the earth, and hit a low target. None of this is impossible but it is pretty unlikely. The degree of stupidity of our national defense structure that would allow these plans to remain unchallenged for that long is mind boggling.

2) All the above was true except that certain key figures in the government, powers that be, whatever, knew it was going to happen and allowed it to happen in order to spark the "War on terror".

3) It was anti-gravity balls, missiles, aliens, whatever. A massive conspiracy involving hundreds, if not thousands of people that somehow, has not leaked and remains a conspiracy.

Personally, I think it was number 2. Certain people knew it was going to happen, perhaps facilitated it in some way and allowed it to happen as it did in order to start the War on Terror.

However, the question that never seems to be asked in these discussions is this. What if what happened on 9/11 was exactly as shown on TV, as told to us by the US government and that the reality was that 9/11 happened because of US foreign policy, the unquestionable support of Israel, the US invading other countries and murdering their citizens and that the sad truth was that this was nothing more than backlash for the things the USA has done to other countries?

When you hit a hornets next with a stick, don't be surprised when you get stung.

And when you think about who was responsible for 9/11, always, always ask, Cui Bono or "Who benefits". Follow the money, follow the power and control over the citizens that came out of 9/11.

Go down that rabbit hole deep enough and you will find out the truth.

 

In my opinion, it was exactly what it looked like.

 

If the official line is, as you say, highly unlikely (I took the liberty of translating the word "pretty" to "highly" in your post), are you saying that you believe it anyway?

 

#2 remains the most probable scenario in my mind. one i'd put money on if there was any way to prove it without getting killed or extrordinaraly rendered for knowing too much. didn't just "know it was going to happen" but actually masterminded it, and sub contracted the foreign nationals who did the actual deed to do so. not stupidity or ignorance on the part of the pentagon either, but knowingly acting under orders of their chain of command. you will note that the side of the building that was hit had recently been renovated and had yet to be fully reoccupied.

rove, rumsfield and cheny were the troika of masterminds, ben laudin, if there was a ben laudin, was chief subcontractor on the hit. and the hijackers WERE ace pilots, trained in the our own top gun pilot training programs.

 

The war with Muslim terrorists did not begin in 2001.
1993 during the Clinton administration, the WTC was attacked by Egyptian radicals.
US Embassy was bombed in Beirut during the Reagan admin.
Robert Kennedy was assassinated by a Palestinian in 1968.
Egyptian president Nasser was killed by Muslim Brotherhood in the 1970s and they tried to assassinate him in 1954. They were allied with Nazi Germany in the 1930's.

None of this is new.