communism

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by Jennyflower, Jun 30, 2004.

  1. alice_d_millionaire

    alice_d_millionaire Just Do It©

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    venezuela, venezuela, venezuela
     
  2. blindhobosam

    blindhobosam The Legend

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    and now for the intellegent conversation:
     
  3. alice_d_millionaire

    alice_d_millionaire Just Do It©

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    so, wheres it at?
     
  4. blindhobosam

    blindhobosam The Legend

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    fascism all the way.
     
  5. alice_d_millionaire

    alice_d_millionaire Just Do It©

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    really... fascist against what? everyone is all the same... kill all the gerbils! they are different!
     
  6. blindhobosam

    blindhobosam The Legend

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    that isn't what fascism is...
     
  7. alice_d_millionaire

    alice_d_millionaire Just Do It©

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    my bad man, didnt realise there wasnt an 's' in there... so what is this facism?
     
  8. USNavyDeadHead

    USNavyDeadHead Member

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    Communism is a great idea and in a perfect world with perfect people that have no lust for power or material possesion then yes, communism would work. Unfortunatly a world such as this will never exist so I guess we have to make due with what we have. A fake democracy.
     
  9. blindhobosam

    blindhobosam The Legend

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    there probably is an s in there...im a bit of a retard:

    fascism is just one person controlling everything. hitler was a fascist not because he killed loads of people but because he was a dictator...

    (shoot me if im wrong)
     
  10. make art not war

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    a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
     
  11. alice_d_millionaire

    alice_d_millionaire Just Do It©

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    that is what fascism is... i was thinkin for a minute... 'facism? maybe thats somethin different...'
     
  12. alice_d_millionaire

    alice_d_millionaire Just Do It©

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    and you cant really compare communism with fascism... not the same thing... you can compare fascism to stalinism, that works... read some books by marx...
     
  13. JanaXGIRL

    JanaXGIRL Senior Member

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    fuck off communism!

    my country, czech rep., lived in communist regime since 1948 till 1989..
    my grandpa was twice in a prison, they (communists) stole them all of their possesion... simply: COMMUNISM IS A CRAP!
     
  14. Mr Mojo Risin'

    Mr Mojo Risin' How are you 'now'?

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    haha, yes, socialism.. Right wing America will try to bracket that as communism as that word on it's own can be used as propaganda to get the backs-up of a large naive mass within the American population... socialism, socialism, socialism, the only form of Democracy that's been conceived by mankind. ;)
     
  15. Jennyflower

    Jennyflower Member

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    Well after all that discussion, i still think its a nice idea. the world was born communist. Im sure the cave men appreciated it anyway.
     
  16. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    thats like saying "this one time, a black man robbed my purse and shot my mom, so i hate all black people now."
     
  17. Mr Mojo Risin'

    Mr Mojo Risin' How are you 'now'?

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    hmmmm... haha, curious
     
  18. JanaXGIRL

    JanaXGIRL Senior Member

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    ok.. to you, it can be like this.. but if you have never lived in communist regime, you don't know, what hell it is! It ain't your fault, of course.. you just live in a democratic free country all your life, but trust me, that communism isn't about freedom.. it's about keeping your own personality down.. you can't say what you want to, you can not go where you want to, you can not even study what you want to, meaning high school and uni, because your parents could sometimes say something against communism..
    I have always thought that hippies want FREEDOM..
    if it is so, how the fuck can you say: communism is good???
    Maybe, to those, who know it just from books, it looks like a good idea, but trust me.. it is the 2nd worst type of state, after fascism..
     
  19. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    they are to very similar things, one just isnt so rigid
     
  20. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    everything listed as a fault of communism is not a fault because of what communism means... it's a fault of dictatorships, and power... which is what communism stands against... The argument people always use is, "we are all greedy, selfish bastards so communism will never work"... what an ignorant, broad, speculative argument... not everyone is greedy, surely we all know that... its the equivalent to having said before the abolition of slavery -- "we are all racist slaveowners so we have no need to free slaves"
    People are so blinded by living in this society, a society which has over time fought "communism" in many different countries because the people who ran this society feared losing their power and wealth... they feared the spread of it... so what do they do? They make these countries poor, they wage military attacks on them, they send trade embargos to starve the people living in these countries. Cuba, vietnam, korea, the ussr... People trade in the lives of innocents, the wellbeing of families for keeping their power and wealth... much like war mongering red necks and idiotic nationalists trade in the lives of innocents for tax breaks that cater to them (the rich).

    Every sort of tyranny that has existed under the name of communism, what sort of communist ideology do they read? Certainly they could care less about Marx, Lenin, Trotsky.. Any person who actually studies communism will tell you these countries never followed Marx doctrine and never really even attempted to... they just wanted the name of communism to bolster their power, because they know how much the NAME will bring to them in countries where the masses starve... what happened in the czech, ussr, china, cuba, is not a reflection of what communism is like, how its supposed to be ran... Communism, is an economic philosophy, therefore it is not responsible for the consequences of its political system.
     

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