Communism vs Capitalism: Which Brings Better Innovations?

Which system has brought about the most innovations with various things? Does the competition that comes with capitalism lead to more innovations?

 

Ok. I like Capitalism for this one but I'm not debating. Is socialism a form of communism? I could google, but I don't want to do that either.

 

Communism is meant to come naturly from a peaceful and free socialist society. A point in which the capitalist need will be gone. It's an ideal of the future that does not take in account the human state of mind now.

Which is why I think the best society is one that mixes socialism and capitalism. I don't think competition is exclusive to a 100% capitalist society. A need to improve on something or impress is always present in humans. The biggest leaps in mankind happened just because one man or women decided we could do better. Even if there is a king or people living in slavery they still improved something. It's only when a goverment censors or oppress that innovation is lost. Socialism, communism or capitalism don't have to censor.

 

Yes. No contest. What innovations has Communism brought besides innovative ways to dominate humans. That's assuming we're using "Communism" to refer to present day forms of Socialism dedicated to Marxist-Leninist ideology, as opposed to the idealistic ones unfocusedanakin just described, which have never existed or existed only in small utopian communities.

 

Last night I listened to Willy Cunningham on the radio. He bragged that his recent heart valve replacement was a wonder of capitalist medical innovation. He then slipped and admitted that Medicare had approved the procedure, because he is 71 years old. I know for a fact the same or similar operations are available in socialist/communist nations, and the government pays for it too. Socialist Iraq had a government provided medical care system that was the envy of all Middle East nations. It would still be so, had not America bombed the place.

 

You get pretty good healthcare in Cuba too. Don't tell America.

 

Which is why Cubans keep making floatation devices out of whatever they can find, to come to America for a better quality of life and healthcare.

But don’t tell the NPCs

 

Healthcare is just one part of a govemrnent.

Your answer is the sanctions not the actual flaws with Communistic theory. It's a small island with few resources.

Who is NPC? Are we playing a video game now?

 

Communism brought a pretty impressive space program, but there are not many communist countries anymore.

 

Where have you been? It's Six-eyed's favorite meme, Non-Playing Characters-- those blank faced gray zombies who are supposedly directed by the powers that be and incapable of free thought, unlike the right wingers who reflexively use the meme when they can't come up with rational arguments. https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/npc-meme/

 

I doubt that healthcare is the draw, but many are escaping an authoritarian regime. At one point, in 1980, there was a mass influx of Marielito boat people in response to a downturn in the Cuban economy--including many released from Castro's prisons.and mental health facilities.

 

I doubt that either system could be judged better in this respect. Both systems have a sordid history of economic development at the expense of people and communities. Both systems have had authoritarian leaders exploit people. What seems to be lacking is a philosophy that realizes that communities and people come first. Amassing fortunes always comes at somebody’s expense. Today’s flirtation with extremist capitalist ideas is really dangerous....corporations are people, competition is always good, the press is “fake”, more things is always better, culture doesn’t matter. When the USA opened the flood gates to money, the loss of democracy and concentration of wealth accelerated. It’s too bad that the ideas of peace, love, equality, and humaneness that sprouted with the hippies in the 60s have been beaten down by the greedy few.

 

Communism means that you don’t have a vote or a say with who governs the country.
Communists control your family.
Capitalism is where you get your vote but you get told you must do what they say.

 

You wouldn’t want to live in one either.

 

Communism and capitalism only exist because people can't organize any better and, ironically, the thriving countries that provide an extensive social safety net have the fewest social problems and embrace neither extreme. If capitalism becomes too extreme, communism can be the result as the pendulum swings the other way and the people do whatever they have to do to survive. Note that neither communism nor capitalism is sustainable without the people themselves embracing them, while the only countries that have embraced either laze fare capitalism or communism have routinely lied to their own people and the rest of the world. Not exactly sustainable.

 

What? You are just another paranoid android who has probably never lived anywhere but the US.

 

Who are you to tell me what I want to do? Get the fuck out of here.

 

LOL, I lived in Spain when Franco was alive and the military-police shot to kill and asked questions later, and strapped a machine gun to their back and a 45 to their hip, for directing traffic. The last time I drove around DC, they funneled everyone on the beltway into a single lane and slowed them down long enough that two dozen armed men could easily look in all the windows of each car passing by. The courts are now compelling people to testify against themselves, and the only thing left that distinguishes the US from any other fascist state today is we are wealthy, and it doesn't pay to act like complete assholes.

If the economy collapses, the US may go down in history as the first country to literally eat the rich.

 

Socialism.

 

Mimsy were the borogroves. Socialism is a meaningless word when nobody can agree on what the fuck it means, and both capitalists and communists attack the idea as meaningless. Socialism should be defined according to how strongly it is attacked by both communists and capitalists, because it represents the excluded middle. Whether anybody fucking cares or not, this is the direction the entire planet is headed. Capitalist romance tends to bite people in the ass, while communist earthiness starts to stink rather quickly.