clinton was just as bad as trump, but the liberals only want to make trump look bad

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by StellarCoon, Jul 24, 2019.

  1. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    First your statement about killing Trump is completely uncalled for.
    Second you asked a totally ridiculous question.
    Two questions actually.
    What does that have to do with the standing the U.S. has in the world? Do I have to personally talk to a Russian, North Korean, or Chinese national to find that out?
    Do you think I don't realize that the world is made up of millions of people and that they have different ideas and concepts of the U.S.? What would I gain by talking to a small number of foreigners? Do you think I can randomly talk to any Russian, for example, and find out definitively what the Russian government and nation think about the U.S.?
    So to answer your question, no I didn't personally talk to any Russians, North Koreans, or Chinese. So what?

    When I made the statement that the U.S. has become the laughing stock of the world, etc. I am referring to actions taken by Trump and reactions expressed, and actions taken by other nations, their leaders, and citizens as seen by me in different media reports.
    I can't be everywhere in the world and I can't talk to every citizen in the world....so I don't know what you were referring to with your question.
    I become informed about the world by listening to media accounts, as I said I don't have to visit every country in the world, nor talk to every citizen of the world to become aware of what is happening, at least in part.

    Third.
    So, did I get it wrong? You agree with me? You listen to various media outlets to find out about what the world believes about Trump, or have you talked to Russians, Chinese, and North Koreans? And if so, how many, did they all have the same opinion of the U.S.? Is it possible that others had a different opinion?

    Fourth.
    Why do you think I'm paranoid? Because I assumed, possibly wrongly, that you only believe Trump's rhetoric?
    How does that make me paranoid?
    Do you think Trump has negatively affected the U.S. standing in the world?

    Fifth.
    If I offended you I apologize. Thanks for straightening me out.
    I'd like to hear your opinion on the matter.
     
  2. quark

    quark Parts Unknown

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    What the fuck makes you think I'm going to read all of that?
     
  3. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Okay.
    I understand.
     
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  4. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    The only reason conservatives keep complaining about their government is because they can't buy what they want and can't kill the rest of the country without paying through the nose. The fucking idiots elected Donald Duck against the wishes of their own Libertarian leaders, because the sad truth is they hate any government they can't shoot and kill. Give me a break, the US is now so infested with commies out to steal your wallets, you can't even trust your own party leaders, who often accuse each other of secretly being commies.

    Big Bird is not an evil commie plot, Donald Duck cannot save you from yourselves.
     
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  5. granite45

    granite45 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Right on. The economic chaos you mentioned is just the tip of the dung heap. As for the “hard left” the U S does not have anything close to a real left political presence. That term is a ludicrous term made up by right wing extremists, conspiracy nuts and fascists.
     
  6. He almost was. Big Bird was supposed to go up on the space shuttle, Challenger. It was for the kids.
    The logistics of the suit were insane, so they up a teacher instead.

    But, what if Big Bird went down in flames on live TV? There was speculation the Soviets were involved. Kids who saw that would not forget. They wouldn't care about the Berlin wall, they'd never forgive. They'd grow up with a profound loathing for the people who killed Big Bird. Three months later, Chernobyl!!!!!
     
  7. Bwahahahahahahahaha

    Mango on the bottom branch.
     
  8. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Big Bird can't die, even on National TV, because he's not a real bird. A much worse nightmare was when the puppeteer who operated Elmo was accused of sexually assaulting children. The idea commies care about our kids is rather amusing, when we kill 4 of them daily, have the worst abuse rates in the developed world, and tend to warehouse them and drug them like so many cattle. The schools even commonly watch them for hours, after school closes, because they might as well charge for babysitting.
     
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  9. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    "I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF ATHETITS LIBTARDS THAT DONT NOT READ ARE CONSTUTION WICH WAS BASED ON ARE BIBEL!! IT SPECIFCALLY SAYS THAT CHRISTAINS CANT NOT BE PROSECUTED AND THAT THEY CANT NOT STOP CHRISTAINS FROM TEACHING ABOUT ARE LORD IN SAVOR SO WE NEED TO BRING BACK SCHOOL PREYER AND TEACH ABOUT JESUS IN SCHOOL INSTED OF THE IGNERENT FAKE SCEINCE WERE TEACHING THEM RIGHT NOW!!"

    BLESS TRUMP FOR PREYING FOR ARE CHILDEREN
    (This from the same site as the coronation photo. Methinks it might be a put-on; I hope.)
     
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  10. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Sarcasm tends to go right over the heads of people who insist Big Bird is an evil commie plot.
     
  11. Oh cute, woo has a new favorite thing to say.
     
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  12. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Hate to break it to you... but it's probably not a put on.
     
  13. Meliai

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    From Mickey Mouse to Big Bird
    The evolution of woo
     
  14. lode

    lode Banned

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    Clearly makes him wootwo.
     
  15. highlander69

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    I didn t trust Hillary But after having Trump as prezz she of been great haha But if she won I be complaining bout her because I d of had no idear how Bad Trump would be..Guy is a no class lieing nut case
     
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  16. srgreene

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    This is just a silly comment- it shows either your utter ignorance of who the Nazis were and what they did, or a lack of connection to reality. For all Trump's faults and limitations, he is not a "neo-nazi", whatever that is. Give me an example of where he has said anything comparable to what Hitler said about Jews, let along done anything remotely has evil.

    Do I consider Trump an admirable man? No, I do not. I do think he has done some good things for America- things that no Democrat would have contemplated. With reluctance I voted for him once, and may well yet again.
    [​IMG]
     
  17. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    Like what?
     
  18. srgreene

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    I agree with him that China has been "ripping us off" for years. Ok, a better description would be they have not played by the rules. They have cheated. Trump is the first POTUS to stand up to them. While I think his style has left something to be desired, I am glad he has done that.

    I fully support his recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Despite the hysterical claims of the left, the Arab world did not "erupt"- not even close. I am even happier that he has pulled the rug out of the awful terrorist-supporting organization UNRWA. Arabs have been playing us for suckers for decades: Trump has said, "No more- grow up".

    His Supreme Court appointees have been excellent choices- that is perhaps a POTUS's most enduring legacy. He has at least limited immigration from countries filled with people who hate America- we do not want to end up with a German or Sweden situation with numerous no-go zones (we nearly have some in Michigan as it is).

    His style is often atrocious, he is a man in way over his head, but nonetheless he has some solid achievements to his credit. His environmental record has similarly been awful.
     
  19. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    Also a $779 billion budget deficit, the debt has grown to $22 trillion and a trade war that is basically a tax on all of us. I favor open borders, open markets and open minds...Trump fails at all of these. I'm also concerned about his anti-abortion appointees to the courts. His denial of climate change and rollbacks on environmental protections is worrisome. And who cares where Israel's capitol is? We've been kissing Israel's ass for years and it's got us nothing (except maybe votes for particular congressmen, which is what it's all about anyway in Washington.) I won't even mention his asinine tweets that make him look particularly stupid. I'll vote for a cucumber before I vote for Trump.
     
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  20. granite45

    granite45 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    The tirades about China and trade reflect an abysmal lack of economic impact know.edge. Free trade always has a net increase in economic benefits if there is an adequate continuing investment in the integrity of the process. The second given is that in a trade war the strongest economies fare better than the weaker combatant. Who do you think is currently stronger ..China or the US?
    Both Clinton and Obama made necessary investments in the process....I know because I had some involvement in the NAFTA process. The qualification of Trumps Supreme Court appointments is laughable. Trumps horrible behavior towards the environment is consistent with the rest of his elitist anti-social behavior; including the support of the disenfranchisement of the Palestinians. But any impartial review the pattern in the US seems consistent with a fascist view.
     
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