Clinton Or Sanders?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by skip, Sep 18, 2015.

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Who would you prefer as Democratic Candidate for President in 2015?

  1. Hillary Clinton

    14 vote(s)
    18.4%
  2. Bernie Sanders

    62 vote(s)
    81.6%
  1. Wizardofodd

    Wizardofodd Senior Member

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    I'm sure that would be an ideal, tidy ending for Hillary, wouldn't it? And Bernie's supporters will just come walking right into the HRC camp? Maybe if her campaign and supporters were just a little more smug and condescending, they could convince people that they should support her and this whole thing hasn't been rigged. Or maybe they could scare them into it.....
     
  2. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Yeah, every cold day is taken to be proof that global warming isn't taking place. And anyone who can't see that is considered mentally deficient.
     
  3. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    He needs to continue through the convention, regardless of the outcome of the impending "deals," so that his ideas are heard loudly and clearly.
     
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  4. Meliai

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    There are too many people in the US who are just really unreasonable about politics. Reasonable people know better than to begin a political discussion in public because there will always be at least one beliggerent person who just shouts their views at everyone.

    People can be very insulting during political "conversations." Just look at how often the term libtard gets tossed around on HF

    I love a good political discussion myself and enjoy hearing differing viewpoints, but only if everyone can remain reasonable and calm.
     
  5. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    This is an oxymoron...
     
  6. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Bernie's new "win at any cost" attitude is making him look like a bitter old man who can't accept defeat. He promised us last year that he would never be like that. I'm disappointed. He's behaving like a very ordinary politician. I thought he was on a higher level.

    If he ends up dividing the party too much and helps Trump win, he's going to regret being remembered for that.
     
  7. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    He showed up in a park down the street from me here in Springfield,Oregon. I took my grand daughter to see him and there was a line FOR BLOCKS AND BLOCKS. Thousands did not get in to see him. The guy who runs the park said afterwards---"we didn't know so many people were coming! Fuckin' dolt.
    I make it a policy to never stand in lines--it was worse than Disneyland.
     
  8. Too bad Clinton created this refugee crisis. I suppose that's just more awesome "wheelin and dealin" to you, right. Man, she's smooth, fucking up countries all over the world and getting indicted by the FBI. What a winner.

    It's Hillary whose attitude is "win at any cost", primarily because the cost of a Clinton White House to the American people would be catastrophic. Fracking, war, Citizens United...we're screwed if Clinton wins the presidency. The cost has already been millions of Americans being disenfranchised from their right to vote. That's the real cost.

    Bernie fares better against the Republicans than Hillary does. Hillary is behind Trump by two points in today's Rasmussen poll. Of course Bernie should contest the convention, as he said he will. We need the best candidate to beat Trump. It's not his fault that Hillary's trustworthiness is at an all-time low. It's her fault for being a lying crook. She can't win the election because she is a fucking fraud and everybody knows it.

    Bernie still has a real chance at winning this thing. He'd be letting millions of people down right now, the world over, if he dropped out. It seems that Hillary's campaign can't withstand Bernie talking about the issues, talking about their differing policies, which is what occurs in a democratic election. Bernie's running an honest campaign, and all these frauds look like the frauds they are because of it. But what, is nobody supposed to run an honest campaign anymore? Bernie has to drop out and endorse Hillary Clinton, career criminal? I don't fucking think so.
     
  9. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    Anyone other than Clinton
     
  10. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Here we go again.

    Please explain how Clinton created a refugee crisis, how she is screwing up countries around the world, when she was indicted by the FBI, specifically what she has lied about, why she is a crook (what laws has she broken and been convicted of), and why is she a fraud?

    Oh, and how is she a career criminal...exactly?

    You are spouting ridiculous accusations...back them up.
     
  11. Meliai

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    If Trump wins, if anything it will be the fault of the DNC for failing, or not putting forth any effort really, in reaching out to young, new Democrats and independent voters.
     
  12. No, fuck that. You're being totally disingenuous. No matter how many times we tell you, you'll just keep asking "What did she do? How did she lie?" trying to make it look like these claims are just preposterous when anybody who knows anything about her knows that these claims are true. Except she wasn't indicted by the FBI, I'm just saying she's under CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION by the FBI. You want me to prove that too, or can you use Google? Great candidate...you want me to vote for the person who is under criminal investigation by the FBI. Not just for the emails, but the Clinton Foundation as well. TWO FBI INVESTIGATIONS. But oh sure, right, ANYBODY could get investigated by the FBI. That could happen to anybody!

    You want to know what she's lied about? Type in "Hillary + lies" on Google. You'll find plenty. You want to know what she did as secretary of state? Use Google. It's all there.

    You want to know how she's a crook? http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187

    There, one of many ways. Bottom line, I'm not going to keep doing your job for you, wearing myself out doing the research you need to do. RESEARCH YOUR GIRL.
     
  13. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZHO1vo762c
     
  14. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    Hillary Clinton is a scumbag. Not that trump isn't a scumbag as well. America votes for scumbags, because most Americans are scumbags and have scumbag values presumably. Or are just dumb and ignorant. Lot of scumbags are dumb and ignorant as well.
     
  15. http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron

    Clinton sells fracking to the world.

    Fracking:

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/05/02/texas-floods-sending-toxic-fossil-fuel-runoff-public-waters?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork

    I just don't think people get how serious the situation is, IRQ. They think we can handle 4 more years of the same old same old, but it's just not true. And those four more years will translate into indefinite years of establishment picked candidates as they sink their claws in ever deeper. It has to stop now. Everybody has to stand up and say enough is enough or the world will not survive, much less our country. People have been brainwashed into complacency and you can only say wake the fuck up so many times.
     
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