Climbing the Income Ladder in the USA

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by YouFreeMe, Sep 2, 2013.

  1. YouFreeMe

    YouFreeMe Visitor

    Read this article recently:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/22/business/in-climbing-income-ladder-location-matters.html?_r=1&

    The Title and Subtitle:

    In Climbing Income Ladder, Location Matters

    A study finds the odds of rising to another income level are notably low in certain cities, like Atlanta and Charlotte, and much higher in New York and Boston.


    Seems obvious, but it was an interesting read.

    What do you guys think? America has, in the past, prided itself in being "a land of opportunity." Does this still ring true to you? Do you feel like we are too hard on people who can't seem to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" or are we too generous to these people with welfare, etc.?

    Was George Carlin correct in stating: "It is called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it!"

    Any observations on this general subject?
     
  2. AiryFox

    AiryFox Member

    :2thumbsup:
     
  3. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    One of Carlin's best rants ever. Spot on, really.

    (In the video title it says it's disabled, but it's not.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RhIxxvYtRE"]American Dream, You have to be asleep to belive it. - VIDEO DISABLED because of WMG Copyright claim. - YouTube
     
  4. broony

    broony Banned

    They don't tell you what your not supposed to know...

    "you can't fight for something that doesn't exist" ive heard from the public..

    Perfect! says the politician/lord/leader and they know the meaning of that quote..
    cause
    Now we can fuck them over even more!

    Just be thankful we don't live in the UK or anywhere near that country... reading the posts on this site over the years is hella fucking depressing as every post from them is filled with draconian wether they know it or not...

    George was right on with many things.. even though he disagreed with a lot of shit going on, himself as well as myself, we are still glad to be Americans because this country is awesome. If George really didn't like it he would have left years ago before his passing.
     
  5. AiryFox

    AiryFox Member

    Will McAvoy quote from the show The Newsroom:

    pause

     
  6. broony

    broony Banned

    Yes ive read on the electoral college and the voting system, the federal banks, where they came from, family bloodlines, children-college school manipulation, government corruption, government testing on the public, health care, tv manipulation, government satellites, FDA, GMO, sodium, chem trails, 911... tons of other random conspiracy shit I don't care to remember but I can't forget because of how incredibly fucked it is..

    So anyways besides all that.

    America is awesome.

    I got a problem... the world is corrupt, and no country allows my guns... shit.. damn.. so if I move... I will be breaking laws? .. shame shame..
     
  7. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

    I was never good with authority or corporate structure. So I'm a self made man in the making, although that's probably true you can get a hell of a lot more home for the money in Charlotte or ATL than NYC or Boston. And the people are nicer.
     
  8. If you're not good with authority then one must become the authoritor. I'm a nightmare to bosses. I'm the guy that'll tell you how it is in the most direct way. But be too good to fire. Then methodically make my way up the ladder. I've been at my current job for 4yrs. I'm the catering cook and 2nd highest paid in the kitchen behind the manager. By the end of the year I guarantee I'll be making at least another $1/hr. And there's cooks that have been there well over 10yrs that make much less than me. The job before that I became kitchen manager within less than a year of working there. If you want it, reach for it and grab it. Otherwise just sit back and be another peon.
     
  9. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed and Confused Staff Member Super Moderator

    There is a lot of truth in this Carlin segment, but you have to realize that not all of the rich, powerful people in the U.S. are that way.

    Franklin D. Roosevelt came from one of the wealthiest families in the U.S.

    He created the FDIC, TVA, CCC, WPA, Social Security, and National Labor Relations Act among others. He was an advocate for the poor and minorities and the unemployed. He initiated reforms and regulation of big business and wall street and is consistently ranked as one of the three greatest Presidents in the history of the U.S. alongside Washington and Lincoln.

    The following anecdote was related by Roosevelt to illustrate his approach to government:

    Carlin was talking about certain types of the rich and powerful, not all of them.
     
  10. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

    Whaaaaaaaat? Bullshit. All of it. Carlin makes a small fortune being a dipshit and then tells us we can't make it. NO. Fuck him and his Hollywood left. Mike Moore too. Fat Fucker makes a fortune and then scoffs at us. As for me settle in the Carolinas or FL. No state income tax. Work under the table. Keep the money you work for ; let the northern liberals support obamunism; I won't.
     
  11. YouFreeMe

    YouFreeMe Visitor

    Not quite the message he was getting at, dude. Maybe on a superficial level.
     
  12. RIPTIDE59

    RIPTIDE59 Banned

    Please , enlighten me.
     
  13. *MAMA*

    *MAMA* Perfectly Imperfect

    I think field of work has a gigantic effect on whether or not you can climb an income ladder. Before I was self employed, I worked in pharmacy. In one hospital I worked at, there was literally a "career ladder" with a certain amount of projects and competencies you had to meet. The higher you were on your "ladder" the higher your salary, and your yearly bonuses were bigger. There was no competition for promotions, how far you went was dependent on how much work you put into being progressively better.
     

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