Climate Change

I’m 33 years old. Been hearing about Global Warming renamed to Climate Change to cause the end of the world since I was a kid in the 90s. Still waiting. And I imagine in 2030 I’ll still be waiting.

 

Yes, I see. Well , I'm 84, so I have seen a few changes to which you have not been exposed. Those who give dates for events to occur are foolish , in my estimation. Kinda like the religious nuts claiming the end of the world is nigh. Of course there will be an end of the "world " at some point, as change is a constant. No one knows exactly when and no one knows exactly when the fish will die out from plastic filling the ocean--if in fact that ever happens. Or when temps around the world will kill off millions of people--if in fact , that happens. On and on and on. The only thing to do is try and suss out who to believe as situations, local , national and international occur in our daily lives. So. You , of course can choose to believe whatever you like, as will I. I will not be around to see the results of what has happened and is happening to the earth and the inhabitants hereon, from what scientists are finding. Good luck to you, youngin'-----I hope you are right. BUT-----------

 

ah come on Scratch, 84 is the new 50...

 

sez you!

 

the new 50 with 4x aches and pains...

 

Shouldna stayed roofing from 27 'till over 70!!!!

 

“The point is that humans will create an enemy to unite agaisnt no matter what. So why not make the challenge to that enemy something that benefits mankind?”

That sounds fine on the surface but what if the decision was made that genocide is the solution? You never answered my question. Would you support that?

“Sure, that's what they said.“

So you’re admitting that you’re fine with them lying. Ok.

Definition of ploy:

a cunning plan or action designed to turn a situation to one's own advantage.

“It's all a ploy. That's the point. You seem to think that anytime any group unites against a common enemy, it's bad.“

I think it’s bad if it’s based on deceit, yes. Because it may not be in the best interest of people. Why do I even have to explain this to you?

Bernie Madoff’s scheme was a ploy. It wasn’t in the best interest of his investors. A ploy is generally a negative or deceitful plan.

“Then you use Hitler as an example.
You seem to forget that the U.S., Australia, Russia, France, the U.K., Canada, China, etc. united to defeat Hitler.”

So you’re saying Hitlers should exist just for the sake of uniting against him?

“Ernst Haeckel coined the word ecology (Ökologie) in 1873. He died in 1919. I don't think he was a Nazi.”

Read what I posted. Nazi Germany and Environment

“What many people do not know about Haeckel, however, is his connection to national socialism. Haeckel placed his views about nature conservation into a world view similar to that of Social Darwinism Here, only the strong (both individually and on a national scale) and those willing to fight, survived the constant upward struggle that characterized national evolutionary development. Nations, cultures, and peoples could therefore be categorized "scientifically" into those that were superior and those that were inferior, with the latter being considered expendable and even worthy of destruction. Haeckel also had racial views similar to Hitler.“

So even though he wasn’t alive during the Nazi regime, he provided fertile soil for their ideology. And it’s just fact that the Nazis were indeed very much Environmentalists.

“Ah, I see. You think that to change the destructive actions of human beings, human beings themselves must be destroyed.
That's pretty negative thinking.“

No dude. I don’t think that. I’m arguing exactly against that. I’m saying that’s what the Club of Rome and Georgia Guidestones may be saying. It’s Environmentalist Eugenics. And yes, it is negative. That’s my entire point.

“How do you figure? You think we need to immediately reach that number? I don't see anything that states it must be done by a certain date. Ever hear of birth control being used to reduce a population over time? Or are you agaisnt that?“

I don’t think that birth control is going to reduce the population by 94% anytime in the near future, if ever.

 

I’m not gonna get anywhere with you on this debate either so I’ll leave this discussion on this note. Whatever the truth may actually be or not be in regards to Climate Change, this is just something to chew on.

This article is waving the same flag of warning as I am even though they are indeed validating Climate Change to be real. My ideas are not unfounded:

“This brief collection of quotes illustrates the decisive role that a radical ecological understanding of the world played within National Socialism. Needless to say, ecology as a science and natural philosophy as a whole have not always assumed the same radical ideological shape throughout history. Since World War II, the Green movements that have sprung up all over the world are largely democratic in nature and are as concerned about the well being of humanity as they are about the health of the planet as a whole.

However, the deteriorating world environmental situation in our time could create incentives for even harsher regimes than those of Nazi Germany. Thus, it is useful to study this subject.”

Nazi Germany and Environment

 

Possibly. If your guide is your personal observation, you may be in the same boat with the Flat Earthers, who report that the earth (especially in places like Central Oklahoma) sure looks flat as far as they can see and they can't detect any movement. The global warming theory predicts almost imperceptible but measurable changes over many, many decades. Not even Scratcho has been around that long! Many of us trust the measurements of climate scientists. You seem, instead, to trust David Icke, who thinks the scientists have been bought by the lizard people who want to control the world. It's a judgment call!

 

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Funny you should mention lizard people tish. Because that is part of it. Sometimes reality can be difficult to comprehend. All this is deep.

 

& thats why. Because evry once in awhile we prove ourselves smarter than the lizzies realize. & they hafta find different ways to control us. Also in addition to lizzies. There are light beings.
& there are rules which neither of the can break. But things come close. Think of what we mostly know as a giant truman show.

 

Not mentioned, of course, is the role of the fossil fuel industry in spreading lies to discredit the idea that human activities are causing climate change.
How the oil industry made us doubt climate change
Oil companies discourage climate action, study says
https://www.npr.org/2021/10/27/1047...led-to-take-sweeping-climate-action-heres-why
What Big Oil knew about climate change, in its own words
Editorial: Hoping fossil fuel giants will see the light on climate hasn't worked. Change only comes with mandates and force
With real humanoid CEOs, who needs lizards? Their existence and activities are a matter of record instead of speculation. Elites (Big Oil)trying to (gasp) manipulate us to serve their special interests to our disadvantage!

Speaking of "ploys" that are used in politics, diversionary strategies are common. That is done by the climate change deniers, as well. When all else fails, bring out the lizards!

Even they, however, are changing their tune because of mounting evidence confirming the role of their products in climate change.
Fossil Fuel Companies and Climate Change | Columbia Center on Sustainable Investment
The Reason Fossil Fuel Companies Are Finally Reckoning with Climate Change
This is some evidence of the reality of the phenomenon of human-induced climate change.

 

We will let history play itself out. I’m happy to be wrong in my theory. I don’t want Global Fascism and Genocide.

 

There is a something called the Milankovitch cycle earths orbit around the sun changes every 13000 years so does the climate.

 

There is no way to predict the climate even with most advanced computer simulations. There were lakes abd rivers in the sahara 7000 years ago cave drawings show that